Job banding NHS

elliew92

I am quite new to these forums apologies if this is in the incorrect place.

I have been with the NHS for over 2 years now and I have been in my current NHS role for 16 months now. I am a Personal Assistant.
I have always believed i am on the wrong pay band (i am on pay band 3) where as other personal assistants within the trust are a band 4.

I have queried this with my manager and my response i have gotten today is of 4 things,

Stay on a band 3 Set targets to work towards a band 4 (could be ages) Find a band 4 job else where If the job is a band 4 there isn't any budgeting from the admin side

My banding budget comes from 3 pay scales, the admin one and 2 nursing as I PA for 2 matrons and a tissue viability nurse.

I am quite stuck on where I stand? I need the band 4 money for a lot of reasons... and don't want to be stuck on a band 3 when i am doing band 4 responsibilities.

bll78

I have worked in the NHS for years. The chances of you getting the pay band altered are slim to zero and it will take forever anyway. If you do get it re-graded and there isn't the cash be prepared for the hours to reduce. If you want Band 4 pay then the best way to get it would be to apply for a Band 4 position I'm afraid.

gettingready

As above - I too worked in NHS for ages and was on top of Band7 before I left in 2010. My colleagues who stayed are currently all on Band 5 doing the same jobs as they have now been downgraded TWICE.

So really your only real option is to look for another, better paid job somewhere else.

General_Grant

I worked in the NHS for a number of years. Over that time I witnessed job title inflation combined with pay band reduction.

When I joined the Trust with which I worked I had registered with the agency as a Secretary though my work had been different in recent years but my skills were high (shorthand included).

Being a secretary meant I was paid as a Band 4. I discovered that the previous person in the job had been at Band 5 because they had been given the title of PA. So that taught me that secretaries are actually typists as far as the NHS understands the term whatever they are actually required to do (unless they are the Trust Secretary, of course). My successor in the role was a Band 5 as a PA.

Fortunately I changed role and moved up through the Bands. I suggest you find another job.

elliew92

Thank you all for your feedback it seems i am not the only one!

I will look for a new job, i do have an interview for a band 4 post as an elective access officer.

I think it is wrong they keep cutting peoples jobs etc..
admin play a big role just as much as nursing, it is good to hear others who work or have previously worked in the trust.

GlasweJen

My OH reckons the only way to get out your band is to apply for the next band up.

Dizzy_Ditzy

When I left, I was a secretary at the top of B4.

They replaced me with a B3.

Chances are, if you left for a B4 job, your replacement would still be at a 3

ohreally

You need to get hold of your matched job report, find out which profile you have been matched to.

There is no PA band 3 - check page 10 http://www.nhsemployers.org/~/media/Employers/Documents/Pay%20and%20reward/Office_Services.pdf

Have you spoke with staff side reps who sit on matching panel?

WolfSong2000

I am a band 6 - responsible for managing 70+ staff via 7 team leaders across 4 sites, a multi-million pound budget and managing a number of substantive projects. A girl I used to work alongside has just been promoted to a band 6. She manages 3 staff and has little to no travel. Someone else I know is a band 7 with no management or budgetary responsibilities.

In my humble opinion the whole "banding" system is a bit of a joke - pay people what they're worth. The NHS certainly has no problem paying senior staff six figure salaries.

pmd123

WolfSong2000 wrote: »

I am a band 6 - responsible for managing 70+ staff via 7 team leaders across 4 sites, a multi-million pound budget and managing a number of substantive projects.

If you're responsible for managing 70 staff then there is no way your role should be a band 6, the equivalent at our organisation would be a head of service role, at least at an 8c level.

In your position, I would be asking for the team to be restructured to provide a different management structure, I line manage 9, and that takes a major chunk of my time, answering questions, giving advice, 1 to 1's, team meetings, reviewing reports etc. there is no way being responsible for 70 can be the best management structure for a service.

Southend1

OP, have a chat with your union rep and see what he/she thinks.