Advice on buying a new bed / mattress?

missbiggles1

Fraise wrote: »

I have an expensive bed, it cost me over £2,000 13 years ago. It's a Relyon Supreme and most comfortable bed ever. A few years ago the wheels on the base needed refitting and whilst they were being done we put the mattress on a slatted bed frame. The difference was incredible. It was much firmer and nowhere near as comfortable as when the mattress is on its own divan base. My mattress is very deep and weights a ton due to all the springs etc....so it certainly does make a difference what base you have.

You can't beat a sprung divan base for comfort - a slatted base just doesn't compare.

xyz123

Fraise wrote: »

Yes, you could do that, but if they're fixed wooden slats they have no give, thus making the mattress less comfortable.

IMHO I think thats very subjective. Function of bed is to provide stable surface and not to provide "give". The "give" is the reason there are springs in mattress! The main problem with pocket spring mattress and slatted bed is very obvious and that is the small springs can "fall in gaps" between slats while the sping next to it. Thus the person sleeping gets different support from these two springs. Adding more slats to get flat surface for mattress avoid this, which is why most people find divans more comfortable...

missbiggles1

xyz123 wrote: »

IMHO I think thats very subjective. Function of bed is to provide stable surface and not to provide "give". The "give" is the reason there are springs in mattress! The main problem with pocket spring mattress and slatted bed is very obvious and that is the small springs can "fall in gaps" between slats while the sping next to it. Thus the person sleeping gets different support from these two springs. Adding more slats to get flat surface for mattress avoid this, which is why most people find divans more comfortable...

If that were the case, surely you'd be just as comfortable putting the mattress on the floor?

(Not that I haven't slept on mattresses on floors in my time.;))

xyz123

missbiggles1 wrote: »

If that were the case, surely you'd be just as comfortable putting the mattress on the floor?

(Not that I haven't slept on mattresses on floors in my time.;))

I have slept many times on the mattress on floor and it is just as comfortable as solid bed. as with bed it depends on quality of mattress...Go to south asian countries and thats exactly what millions and millions of people do i.e. sleep on mattress on floor. Bed make it easy on the knee to get in and out of mattress.......

Fraise

xyz123 wrote: »

I have slept many times on the mattress on floor and it is just as comfortable as solid bed. as with bed it depends on quality of mattress...Go to south asian countries and thats exactly what millions and millions of people do i.e. sleep on mattress on floor. Bed make it easy on the knee to get in and out of mattress.......

There's a reason beds have divans, and there's a reason why high end bed manufactures only use divans rather than slatted bases.

Divans also have springs in the top, allowing for the mattress above to be supported in the most comfortable way possible. Having a mattress on a slatted base, or even a plain wooden base as you describe, allows no give.

That's why if you do choose a slatted base you can have either plain slats or sprung slats, sprung slats have a certain amount of give making the whole bed more comfortable. But no slatted base can be as comfortable as a sprung diva.

That's why high end bed manufacturers only use divans.

ispookie666

I bought 2 mattresses over a span of 6 months for two beds. One was the usual one with 2000 pocket springs. The other was pocket spring with latex - it were great till the latex on started sinkin in. I'm getting a warranty replacement.
Each cost me around 900.
Make sure to lie on the bed and test
two things in life never to compromise - Good mattress and good tyres

theonlywayisup

buildhigh2000 wrote: »

The general consensus is that pocket sprung mattresses don't get on well with the kind of slats you are describing. The mattress is made of loads of little springs and some of them will get squash through the gaps and provide uneven support on a slatted base with big gaps. It's less of an issue with slats with only small gaps between (for example, a 5cm gap) but I don't like the sound of round metal bars! You could cover the slats with a board, but you wouldn't get the air flowing in the same way, so I'm not sure whether that would matter.

If you have an open coil sprung mattress then I would say it's less of an issue. Having said that, open coil mattresses are pretty horrible, so pocket sprung is much better if you can afford it.

There seems to be a bit of divided opinion online about whether memory foam mattresses work well with slats like that. It's certainly less of an issue if the slats are close together. I would worry that if you had a cheap thin foam mattress then it would be uncomfortable on top of metal slats.

Forgetting bedframes v divans for a second....as for mattresses, I'd pick either a pocket sprung or memory foam mattress (latex is good but pricey for a good one). Ideally you want at least 1000 pocket springs or more if you are heavier than average. If you're getting a single one, I'd get one which you can turn over as it should last longer and it won't be so heavy that you can't turn it.

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