Can HMRC request this??

Coneygree

It's an act , not law there is a difference. Show me the LAW where hmrc can force you to provide them with someone else's bank statements. You'll be looking a long time

Big of you with the insults..... How old r u 6???

PETIE

quietriot wrote: »

Just for the record, this is nonsense.

And the evidence to back up your theory?

quietriot

Coneygree wrote: »

It's an act , not law there is a difference.

You might want to look up the phrase 'Act of Parliament'.

Coneygree wrote: »

Show me the LAW where hmrc can force you to provide them with someone else's bank statements. You'll be looking a long time

It was the point about consent that I was saying was nonsense, because it's nonsense. Though Schedule 36 of Finance Act 2008 is more than sufficient for HMRC to get the bank statements if they want.

PETIE wrote: »

And the evidence to back up your theory?

I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain this to you in detail. Why not test it out by punching a policeman in the face and then telling him you don't consent to the Criminal Justice Act?

Coneygree

Punching a police man would be unLawFul. Loss damage or HARM. It is assault. There is a LAW which does not allow you to do this. hrmc deal with acts, legislation, you have to consent, to an act, because as you said it's passed through parliament, who govern us by consent.

We are a common law country. Laws can be forced, not acts. Therefor hmrc demanding his step sons statements has no basis, because it's an act, and he would have to consent first.

Do some proper research, instead of insulting people,

Coneygree

And like I said show me the law, you just showed me an act, and iv already stated you have to consent to an act. If everyone went round enFORCING acts, we wouldn't be living in a democracy.

quietriot

Oh god you actually believe that.

Coneygree

Tell me what is false in what I wrote please.....

SeniorSam

So many really silly points on this. If the OP just supplies the information asked for, then it will bring matters to a conclusion. Whats the point of trying to be cleaver with confrontation.

Common sence is called for, but I do feel that some of you just want to encourage the OP to try and challenge the situation of a simple request for information.

Sam

Chris_Peters70

Coneygree wrote: »

And like I said show me the law, you just showed me an act, and iv already stated you have to consent to an act. If everyone went round enFORCING acts, we wouldn't be living in a democracy.

What on earth are you on?

zygurat789

SeniorSam wrote: »

What on earth is everyone so worried about? If a simple check on the step sons bank statements is required, just send the copies. The step son should not be worried, Jonathan should also not be worried and to argue the fact of HMRC having the right or not, is just wasted time.

It really amazes me how many people want to challenge systems, when just sending information will solve the problems.

The alternative is that HMRC will continue to investigate as they are not sure that this may be additional income not declared, may possibly impose additional tax on income of Jonathan, which we know was not actually income, but without clarification, by sending bank statements, it is still a question mark.

Do we all expect the HMRC to simply accept figures without asking for them to be clarified in some way. I think we all know what that could easily result in.

Sam

By your own admission you have very few dealings with HMRC and yet hear you are pontificating as if you are an expert.
First of all the stepson's bank statements are not required, the investigation is not into the stepsons affairs. If they want to investigate the stepson then let them do it formally, for which they have to have a reason. They are on a fishing expedition, something which is against all legal protocols.
HMRC devised the system of self assessment with its punitive fines for errors or late filing and encouraged taxpayers to DIY .
If they don't like it now let them admit it was all a mistake and change it.
Oh by the way how would you feel if they asked for your bank statements in this enquiry, after all, in tax law, you and the stepson are both as separate from the OP as each other.