can I go to a concert when off work sick ?

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Another first time poster and runner - really should have gone in Discussion Time... or work for an Essexwide boy - they would soon tell you how it is, I knew I'd be wanting to reach for the doctors number so bad that I'm past caring, I have 6 days to learn a job

Enjoy your concert OP

custardy

Transformers wrote: »

Eh - open forum, that's how they 'dare' to comment.


I'm more disturbed that you think it's OK to call someone a 'disgusting creature'.


Let's be honest, how would this trip look to the employer? Off because of a bereavement and depression yet going to a concert?

I agree that the time off work should allow the person the opportunity to get back on an even footing but a concert?


How would they find out? Word of mouth, Facebook etc.

Had a guy go home sick on Friday 2 hours into his shift. Going to A&E/clinic
Saturday a colleague bumped into him in another city at a football match
Today phones in sick with the same issue,going to A&E/clinic.
I look forward to the meeting on his return.

sg1000

I think it's about perspective, here. As a manager, I have had people off sick with depression and signed off appropriately. Do I really expect them to stay at home looking at four walls all day? No, that could just exacerbate the problem. Going to a concert, day trip shopping...no probs. Having said that, I have heard of people calling in sick and then been seen boarding a plane for a foreign holiday...I may have a problem with that.

FBaby

Therapeutically, the concert is a good idea for many reasons. So it is a shame the OP the has to gauge how his employer will react, but that's the nature of the beast I suppose.

But many professionals would also argue that going back to work as early as possible can also be therapeutic, so where do you draw the line? The reality is that you can't because even the person suffering can't be 100% certain that they can cope with going to a concert but that they definitely couldn't cope with being back at work, they can only assume. The selective thought process about what one can do and not do is part of dealing with depression.

Any employer has a right to make a judgemental decision on whether they think that the employee is genuine or not. It's what they do as part of the recruitment/promotion process. OP's employer will probably has already made up their mind on what they think of them.

JustOnce

FBaby wrote: »

But many professionals would also argue that going back to work as early as possible can also be therapeutic, so where do you draw the line? The reality is that you can't because even the person suffering can't be 100% certain that they can cope with going to a concert but that they definitely couldn't cope with being back at work, they can only assume. The selective thought process about what one can do and not do is part of dealing with depression.

Any employer has a right to make a judgemental decision on whether they think that the employee is genuine or not. It's what they do as part of the recruitment/promotion process. OP's employer will probably has already made up their mind on what they think of them.

You are wrong.

They would not tell someone to go back to work as early as possible. They would say it's important to get back to work when ready, but to go as early as possible suggests before then.

Sounds like the majority of posters here want the person punished for being sick, more than anything else.

And selective? I think the advice here was staggered rather selective.

I always feel uncomfortable at people giving unqualified mental health advice on the internet...

Transformers

JustOnce wrote: »

You are wrong.

They would not tell someone to go back to work as early as possible. They would say it's important to get back to work when ready, but to go as early as possible suggests before then.

Sounds like the majority of posters here want the person punished for being sick, more than anything else.

And selective? I think the advice here was staggered rather selective.

I always feel uncomfortable at people giving unqualified mental health advice on the internet...

oh, the irony...

You clearly have a personal axe to grind about how others view MH issues or, to be more accurate, how you *perceive* the attitude of others.

That bias means that you are taking this far too personally.

JustOnce

Transformers wrote: »

oh, the irony...

You clearly have a personal axe to grind about how others view MH issues or, to be more accurate, how you *perceive* the attitude of others.

That bias means that you are taking this far too personally.

Nah I'm just belligerent.

Although having a couple of degrees in clinical psychology and working as a psychologist (granted not in mental health now, but I have worked in therapeutic environments before I got my degrees) probably means I know a little bit about mental health.

Transformers

JustOnce wrote: »

Nah I'm just belligerent.

Although having a couple of degrees in clinical psychology and working as a psychologist (granted not in mental health now, but I have worked in therapeutic environments before I got my degrees) probably means I know a little bit about mental health.

But NOT about the individual in question....

Goldiegirl

superbigal36 wrote: »

Bit I don't understand from all those saying it is okay to go to the concert due to it being an unfit to work note etc.

Why then would it be an issue plastered all over twitter or facebook ?

You dont have an unfit to plaster social life over facebook line either ?

Whats the difference ?

The employer might not have a problem, but the colleagues might.

A few years ago, when I was at work, a person was signed off work long term due to depression.

No no-one expects a person with depression to be confined to the house 24/7. Indeed, going out and about is beneficial to recovery.

However, this person had a series of days out to the coast, parties, meals out, pub visits and nights out, and posted every single one on Facebook. Her photos showed her having the time of her life, looking like she didn't have a care in the world.

Her colleagues at work had to struggle on during a period of extreme staff shortage, and were too exhausted to even think about going out.

It created a lot of bad feeling.

JustOnce

Transformers wrote: »

But NOT about the individual in question....

No, but I felt it important to throw in my points because I can't imagine any mental health practitioner saying to someone if you can go to a concert then you can go to work. That's the type of advice has the potential (however remote) to get someone killed.

The advice regarding how his employer/colleagues may perceive things I agree with; but the lack of compassion is just ignorance.