Nick Clegg: The choice is me, Salmond or Farage

fordcapri2000

mayonnaise wrote: »

Yes, I would have expected that from an angry and disaffected person like you, Foxy.

Oh Ok then??


Farage is just best of a bad bunch.

Cannot imagine who or why your preference would be by the way, mainly because I have no idea who you are.

Cyberman60

Spidernick wrote: »

Does anyone think UKIP will have enough seats to make a difference? I certainly don't. The Unionists will almost certainly have more say than UKIP.

The main thing is that the charismatic speaker of the truth on the EU and unfettered immigration wins his seat in Thanet. He will certainly liven up parliament, for the good of the country. :T

fordcapri2000

Cyberman60 wrote: »

The main thing is that the charismatic speaker of the truth on the EU and unfettered immigration wins his seat in Thanet. He will certainly liven up parliament, for the good of the country. :T

The thing is, even if people do not think Farage is the answer, and he is probably not, what they do want is something that is just different than it is today, modern politics is failing. And estimated 35% plus are not even going to bother voting, that is shocking to me.

The Tories(wigs) are a far older political party than Labour, but probably still have an ideology(getting rid of Cameron) that has a place in today's society.

Labour on the other hand that came about from the need for social justice for the poor majority has long since played it's part. They had to become Tories in the form of NuLabor to get back in power and the leadership of liar Blair.

Watched a programme yesterday where young adults were asked if they were going to vote, upsetting to see so many just could not be bothered, nothing seemed to excite them into doing so.

Jason74

stator wrote: »

Can someone explain to me why Nick Clegg is still around?

Surely no-one would consider believing a word said by someone who is a proven liar?

But if politicians were removed on the basis of being proven liars, we'd have none left, albeit some might think that a good thing :beer:

lisyloo

And estimated 35% plus are not even going to bother voting, that is shocking to me.

Apart from the fact that some people may have other priorities (cancer, grieving, hospital treatment, child care, work, transport), why on earth would you bother if you lived in a safe seat?

I am going to vote, but only because I live in a marginal seat.

I can thoroughly understand both people having other priorities and also not seeing the point and I'm astonished at the lack of empathy and amount of judgement around about what other people do.
Maybe someone can put me straight.

Spidernick

lisyloo wrote: »

Apart from the fact that some people may have other priorities (cancer, grieving, hospital treatment, child care, work, transport), why on earth would you bother if you lived in a safe seat?

I am going to vote, but only because I live in a marginal seat.

I can thoroughly understand both people having other priorities and also not seeing the point and I'm astonished at the lack of empathy and amount of judgement around about what other people do.
Maybe someone can put me straight.

Your post pretty much sums up why electoral reform is long overdue.


I live in one of the safest Tory seats in the country, but will still go along and vote against the Tory candidate three weeks today. I feel that people should vote, but I'd much rather it was under a fairer voting system.

antrobus

fordcapri2000 wrote: »

The thing is, even if people do not think Farage is the answer, and he is probably not, what they do want is something that is just different than it is today, modern politics is failing. And estimated 35% plus are not even going to bother voting, that is shocking to me.....

That is what it was last time. A distinct improvement on 2001 though when it was as much as 40%.

fordcapri2000 wrote: »

...The Tories(wigs) are a far older political party than Labour, but probably still have an ideology (getting rid of Cameron) that has a place in today's society..

The Conservative Party is the oldest party we have. Not sure that their 'ideology' is 'getting rid of Cameron', mind you.:)

Castle

Spidernick wrote: »

Your post pretty much sums up why electoral reform is long overdue.


I live in one of the safest Tory seats in the country, but will still go along and vote against the Tory candidate three weeks today. I feel that people should vote, but I'd much rather it was under a fairer voting system.

Totally agreement.

I just looked up my constituency on line and it's pretty safe Tory. Since it was created in 1918 the Tories have won all 27 elections (including by-elections). Based on the 2010 results, Liberals need 11% swing to win and Labour a 16% swing.

Judging by the lack of leaflets and adverts very little money is being spent by any of the parties here, I'm guessing that most of the money is going into the marginal seats.

carslet

Farage for me

kabayiri

Jason74 wrote: »

But if politicians were removed on the basis of being proven liars, we'd have none left, albeit some might think that a good thing :beer:

It's worse than that. They answer questions which are not the one asked.

We are 6 years out from the financial crash, which brought terms like QE; national debt; and deficit into common usage.

Yet...still I heard the politicians on tv talking about paying down the deficit. You can't pay down a deficit!! I think they want people to confuse debt and deficit still.

They are nothing but polished word cheats. Deception is okay in their books.