Hand in notice - or not?

bevanuk

They can't turn down your notice, how do they even think that is possible?

As soon as you get your new contract in writing then give it in. They can even say "We are not accepting this Elinore" or they could say "Monkeys eat fish for protein" - whatever they say is irrelevant it isn't up to them.

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prowla wrote: »

You can hand in your notice, and when you do it's done.

The (prospective) new employer can withdraw their offer at any time; I once served 3 months notice, and the new employer withdrew their offer on the Friday before I was due to start on the Monday.

Hope you got a reason. Thanks for reasoning why folks should continue with job hunt right up the day of starting somewhere

Sorry for the hi-jack OP!

prowla

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Hope you got a reason. Thanks for reasoning why folks should continue with job hunt right up the day of starting somewhere

Sorry for the hi-jack OP!

Apparently they'd had a bad quarter...

janiebquick

Do not hand in your notice until you have your offer letter in your hot little hand. But your current employers cannot make you stay.

Tahlullah

As said before, never hand in your notice until you have the job offer. But the offer letter could say 'subject to satisfactory references'. If so, your aggrieved current employers could cause pain by giving a poor reference, which could lead to the new employer retracting the offer.

What could you do if that happened? A whole lot of pain arguing whether it was a factually correct reference or not. Even if found it wasn't, your new job will have gone and the most you would get is a small payment in compensation.

Your current employer cannot force you to stay, they do not own you. You hand in your notice, work the required notice period and then do not return. You must work the notice period or they could bring a claim against you for loss of earnings. If your role is as specialised as you say, they would have a case, assuming they could be bothered to go down that route.

But if you do, would they give you a good reference in the future?

What to do really depends on whether the new position is dependent on references from your current employer.

Elinore

Hi all,

Just a bit of an update. The meeting was had yesterday morning and much to my surprise they did make an increased money offer.... but on the proviso that they would move me over to a team leader role in another area of the business.

The team leader role where you have consecutively lost the last three applicants to stress related sickness and they have all left? Mmmm.

I said i would think on it and come back to them as it was not an area i was looking to move into and i have never managed people before. I also had the sneaking suspicion that they would expect me to keep large aspects of my current role too. This being said as it is quite a lot of money i also needed to talk to the OH before immediately turning it down.

They seemed to believe 'I will think about it and come back to you' meant yes and released an email to the business congratulating me on the move to the new team and advising everyone it was probationary (sent out after i had left for the day!) I was tipped off by a few people texting me congratulations.

:mad:

So i will be correcting that misconception today as well as handing in my notice as the paperwork finally arrived. Whoop Whoop.

Savvy_Sue

Good for you. Keep it professional, and smile sweetly as you suggest that they jumped the gun with their announcement ...

bevanuk

If you're considering the new offer, review your reasons for leaving against the counter offer.
A lot of companies offer a higher amount of cash and people forget why they were unhappy - those reasons have to be dealt with too.
I am dead against accepting counter offers, though perhaps my own stubbornness.

Elinore

I am a bit upset today but i dont know why its bothering me as i am leaving!

Yesterday i was invited to my exit interview (undertaken by a external HR company)

As i was leaving the company i thought it would be a straight forward thing.

I arrived and they went through the details they would be putting on any reference all of which i agreed to as it was very complimentary. They had feedback from my team leader, co-workers, several department heads and customers which all said i was great to work with and brilliant at my job.

Then the HR lady looked uncomfortable and handed me the comments from my department head. They said word for word...

Couldn't stand her. Before she picked up all the extra workload if she had handed in her notice i would have cheered.

I was floored! this individual and i on one occasion had a slight difference of opinion however i believed it to be both professional and polite (as was the conversation where she requested honest feedback and got it - i had not realised at the time that she didn't actually want honest feedback at all she wanted to be told she was right)

I will admit to being a bit stunned.

elsien

I'd be stunned as well, that anyone would be unprofessional enough to stick that on a formal company document. Says more about her than it does about you, especially if you're getting a good reference. And it clearly wasn't about your performance if she was happy to give you extra work.
This type of exit interview seems odd to me as well - the ones I've seen are about your reasons for leaving to improve the company's retention. This seems more like a final chance for someone with a grudge to get their own back. I'm surprised anyone turns up for them.