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  • pickledonionspaceraider
    pickledonionspaceraider Posts: 2,698 Forumite
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    edited 10 April 2015 at 11:11PM
    It won't be too long before these boys get to the age where the garden won't be of interest to them, they'll be off to the local shops/community centre/park to make their mischief there.
    Could you get some railings attached to your garden wall then they can't sit on it? You sound like you have become victims in your own home, maybe a quiet word with your community bobby and get him to explain they are being a nuisance?


    The children next door, age ranges are between 3 and 15. The OP could well be in for years of this. Could be another ten years - that is if no more children are born into the family next door.

    In the meantime, his own children are too scared to play out in their garden

    It wouldn't be good enough a resolve for me
    With love, POSR <3
  • JC1440
    JC1440 Posts: 167 Forumite
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    Can't really believe the people replying here that suggest the OP is overreacting. This family sound like utter scum, six kids!? :wall:

    If it was me personally I'd move, as I can't tolerate dogs barking intermittently, let alone frequently, as testified by the morons that had to leave their flat across the street from me a month after I'd informed their letting agent :T For me, there seems to be two realistic solutions. Either you move and find some decent neighbours, or you get super aggresive with these dimwits. Tell the parents if the kids or dog bark or enter your property again you'll give them a beating. It's an empty threat, but I doubts these troglodytes can be reasoned with.

    Whatever you decide, I wish you the best. Thoughtless neighbours need to be wiped off the face of the earth, imo.
  • I know from past experience of watching close friends go through it, how all consuming it can become - to have horrendous neighbours like these OP describes. A quite sane person can let it take over their lives when they do not feel secure and comfortable in their own home

    You could spend years reporting them to authorities and arguing with them, to still end up moving on anyway
    With love, POSR <3
  • How on earth is the op going to sell their house with all this going on?
  • martin1959
    martin1959 Posts: 363 Forumite
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    edited 10 April 2015 at 11:35PM
    I appreciate it must be very unpleasant for you, but at least you are not having issues of vandalism. Also, as you have not made an official complaint, if you do want to move, you do not have to declare it which may be worth a fortune in sale price.


    I would concentrate on one issue at a time, and to me, the threat of the dog attacking your family is the most serious. I would try and have a serious conversation with your neighbour and at least point out, that if their dog does actually bite any member of your family, there is a good chance it would be put to sleep, and would she want to be responsible for that happening.


    It would not cost a fortune to knock in some wooden posts to support some 5' wire fencing in front of the hedge (it will eventually grow through the fence) which will keep the dog and hopefully kids out.


    Pushing through a hedge is one thing, but cutting or trampling down a fence is criminal damage and the police can become involved (but this will reduce opportunities to sell at a later date as you will have to disclose a neighbour dispute)


    Many years ago, a solicitor friend had problems with squatters who would not move out of a property he rented out. He had some VERY VERY nasty clients who he represented over the years. He mentioned it to one of them, and within 24 hours the squatters had voluntarily left the property. Evidently, a 2am visit by three men and a sawn off shotgun did the trick....
    Unfortunately these days are long gone......
    20 plus years as a mortgage adviser for Halifax (have now retired), and I have pretty much seen it all....:D
  • Norman_Castle
    Norman_Castle Posts: 11,871 Forumite
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    The wife has tried talking to her but she's adamant I'm at fault for shouting at the kid to kick the ball the other way. So looks like there'll be aggro regardless.

    .
    Obvious response is you shouldn't have to shout at her kids. They're her responsibility.
  • C_Mababejive
    C_Mababejive Posts: 11,668 Forumite
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    Welcome to buy to let blight Britain... No one is safe from the baby breeding underclass and Summer brings it on. Only this week whilst at work i have witnessed the underclass enjoying themselves. Baby breeders at large letting their fat and their tats all hang out, their baby fathers schlepping round in trakkie bottoms swigging from beer cans/bottles,the music blaring,the doorstep/front garden mothers union meeting and lickly tyson the staffie teraing round with a hungry look in his eye. If your a posh chav you have now ditched the staffie for a husky.

    In many cases you are now better off living on a social housing estate because at least the social landlord has a duty to listen and act on complaints of neighbour nuisance.

    I would start with the land reg to find out who owns the house and start oppressing them.
    Feudal Britain needs land reform. 70% of the land is "owned" by 1 % of the population and at least 50% is unregistered (inherited by landed gentry). Thats why your slave box costs so much..
  • moneyistooshorttomention
    moneyistooshorttomention Posts: 17,940 Forumite
    edited 11 April 2015 at 9:44AM
    It won't be too long before these boys get to the age where the garden won't be of interest to them, they'll be off to the local shops/community centre/park to make their mischief there.
    Could you get some railings attached to your garden wall then they can't sit on it? You sound like you have become victims in your own home, maybe a quiet word with your community bobby and get him to explain they are being a nuisance?

    On the other hand - at an age where they want to stay put and blast the area with loud music....:eek:. I admit I would be feeling more than a little nervous at not just having that sort of neighbour, but knowing they are the sort to keep churning out children and would be calculating how many years to menopause the woman of the family would be likely to have left and she couldn't have any more. Closely followed by instant next thought of "Are any of those children girls - because, if they are, they might follow in mum's footsteps and not have bothered to get themselves housed elsewhere first". Visions of Miss Loadsa Kids having Daughter + her own Loadsa Kids all crammed into a house next door to mine.

    Am now remembering a house like that in vicinity of my last house and none of us neighbours were quite sure just how many people were crammed into that house trying to live there....
  • tooties
    tooties Posts: 801 Forumite
    OP,
    i wish you the very best of luck with sorting out this problem and i hope your wife has a safe and speedy delivery when the time comes.

    Regards
    :j
  • VoucherMan
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    I don't normally comment on these, but having read many similar topics I'm surprised the dog issue hasn't been considered more.
    A few people suggesting 'build a fence to keep the dog out'
    DRP wrote: »
    I would put up a fence to stop the dog - your family's safety is your prime concern.
    Option 1- spend out money on a fence and keep them and their dog out.

    but isn't it the owners responsibility to keep the dog in?
    4) Their dog (a breed with a bad rep) enters our garden through the hole and went for me on one occasion when I went near it. My son is now terrified it will kill him or his baby sister if they go outside.


    Controlling your dog

    It’s against the law to let a dog be dangerously out of control anywhere, eg:
    • in a private place (eg a neighbour’s house or garden)
    Out of control

    Your dog is considered dangerously out of control if it:

    • makes someone worried that it might injure them
    I've no idea how easy it would be to pursue it, but there's clear legal guidelines, and it could solve some of the OP's issues.
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