New employer has too many rules, not comfortable, need Advice

amiehall

yenool wrote: »

OP states in the thread he has 8 years experience of working in this kind of job. So he must be at least mid 20s and has plenty of experience working hard "in the real world".

Do you not think it is somewhat rude and patronising to imply OP is childish and not willing to work hard? Nothing he states suggests either of those things.

I don't understand this attitude of 'well it is crap but it could be worse'.... why do so many people think taking up this attitude is good advice?

If the conditions are crap then leave. This isn't a job cleaning toilets in McDonald's; OP has experience and skills to offer. IT industry is reasonably strong for jobs so it shouldn't be a big issue to find another opportunity.

If they ever have clients out on site, is it not reasonable to want to demonstrate a reasonably smart, professional workforce? I think making a fuss about not being able to wear jeans to work is pretty childish tbh...

System

InsideInsurance wrote: »

How does the smartness (or otherwise) of a phone affect No. 2?

That these days people rarely seem to use their mobiles to actually phone people but txt, tweet, status update etc instead. I am guessing the rules have since been broadened to cover any mobile use rather than just phone calls.

Whooosh.....

yenool

amiehall wrote: »

If they ever have clients out on site, is it not reasonable to want to demonstrate a reasonably smart, professional workforce? I think making a fuss about not being able to wear jeans to work is pretty childish tbh...

He isn't "making a fuss" though is he. He is having a mild moan on an internet forum. In relation to the dress code his main complaint seems to be he wore the same stuff for the interview and wasn't told this was a problem, so he feels the goal posts have moved already.

IDK. My view is that people should be allowed to do what they want (within reason) if they are getting the job done to the required standard. It doesn't sound like a customer facing role either, so I can see where the OP is coming from.

I think these kind of rules are similar to what you see in overly strict schools; kids getting detention for no other reason than they wore the wrong shade of socks or whatever. Who cares as long as the work is good.. I just don't appreciate the thought process behind it, other than trying to control people.

Petty rules like paper cup vs china cup, what shade of jeans are acceptable, etc. These would just be warning signs going off in my head about an oppressive micro-managed job. Then again I do accept it is early days for the OP.

Errata

He's a she and wore a dress at her interview.

makeyourdaddyproud

pathtofreedom wrote: »

We're in a recession right now so you need them a lot more than they need you no matter how good a coder you are. So if you can't see anyone getting any flexi time why should they allow it to you who has been there 2 weeks?

Employers often get burned assuming new starters are desperate to stay.

Apart from it smacking of commercial arrogance, departing new starters for reasons of denied time, and a subsequent employment initiative is very expensive to put right.

I don't think any employee should think they've been given an olive branch into employment. If they have in-demand skills, take advantage of your enviable position I say!

Reggie_Rebel

A lot of companies operate 'clear desk' policies now. Also companies do not allow eating at desks as they want their people to get a proper lunch break, especially when you are looking at a screen for long periods.

I do work in an IT department, non customer facing, and our dress code doesn't allow jeans, that's the organisations decision it matters very little.

mgdavid

Reggie_Rebel wrote: »

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I do work in an IT department, non customer facing, and our dress code doesn't allow jeans, that's the organisations decision it matters very little.

with your username, it should !

illegitimis non carborundum.

Polarbeary

I have to say that some of you people have some very odd/strict work environments! I've worked in various offices in several sectors and never been banned from eating at my desk for example.

ali-t

InsideInsurance wrote: »

Gross misconduct included:

1) Walking up or down the stairs without holding the handrail
2) Walking whilst talking on a mobile (pre smart phone days)
3) Carrying more than one cup without using a cup tray
4) Parking nose in in the staff carpark
5) Smoking anywhere on their grounds other than in the designated smoking area


For 4 the actual requirement was to reverse into the space and drive out but you could drive through a double space and you could get away with it.

What's the reason for no.4? I have never understood why some places have this as mandatory.

f1621688

This is how the new kids like to work. It is fun, it is cool :cool:. People stay late and motivated. I have worked like this before and will do so again, any-day. Take some hints you hardliners:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6zVzWU95Sw

Meanwhile I have discovered Dylon washing machine dye, and now my old grey jeans that were headed for the charity bin are black and back.

Other colleagues at work aren't too happy about the rules either. Some of the rules are new, like the ceramic cup one. Email got sent out today stating some people have been seen using cups other than those supplied by the company and this goes against the company culture :eek:. Wasn't me :A