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used van with a reconditioned engine. A sign to stay away?

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  • Amazin
    Amazin Posts: 117 Forumite
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    why would anyone spend 3800 and not factor in some kind of inspection if they no nowt?
    what if it turns out to be a clone?

    well, it cost about £200 to do so which is not cheap and the seller might just say no and take the offers from the ones that don't ask for an inspection. another downside (maybe not a downside) with inspections is that they might find so many faults to the point that it might just put you off

    i think its probably best if i leave this one alone. too much info to digest and potential trouble if thing goes wrong. If he want to keep my £100 deposit, is there anything I can do about it?

    also, just for future reference, the insurance company will refuse to insure me at all if they know its a different engine than the original? I'm assuming its ok if its just some modifications of the same engine?
  • jimjames
    jimjames Posts: 18,657 Forumite
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    i wouldnt buy a car from someone who misses a critical service as a timing belt change. think of what else they ignored

    Who says they missed a timing belt change?

    I've not read that in any of the posts. Just because something breaks doesn't mean a service was missed.
    Remember the saying: if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.
  • jimjames
    jimjames Posts: 18,657 Forumite
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    Amazin wrote: »
    i think its probably best if i leave this one alone. too much info to digest and potential trouble if thing goes wrong. If he want to keep my £100 deposit, is there anything I can do about it?
    ?

    Not really.

    You don't normally pay a deposit if you're not intending buying the vehicle. The seller may have taken it off the sites where it was advertised and have to pay for new ads again.

    It's still cheaper to lose £100 than waste £3000.
    Remember the saying: if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.
  • Marktheshark
    Marktheshark Posts: 5,841 Forumite
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    What it is more than anything is a clue the mileage is incorrect.
    I do Contracts, all day every day.
  • forgotmyname
    forgotmyname Posts: 32,920 Forumite
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    If a seller refuses to let you get their vehicle inspected then assume they have something to hide and you just saved £200 or £3000+

    You agreed to buy the vehicle so consider the £100 gone for wasting their time.

    Yes £200 to get it inspected is not cheap, But you just paid £100 to look at a vehicle and got nothing to show for it.

    Yes the insurance may not cover a vehicle with a different type of engine. But unless they removed the old diesel and fitted a supercharged V8 then it wont be a different type of engine.

    Engines can fail in new vehicles. Its fairly rare these days but does happen. A like for like engine rebuild etc is not an insurance issue.
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  • arcon5
    arcon5 Posts: 14,099 Forumite
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    If I was the seller i'd be fuming. Having taken a deposit on it, agreed a collection date, if a buyer now turned round and said I want it inspected before I complete the sale then i'd most certainly have a bad taste in my mouth.

    The time for consideration and inspection is before agreeing to buy the vehicle!
  • Amazin
    Amazin Posts: 117 Forumite
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    Wrong.

    A properly reconditioned engine can be better than a new engine. All the parts that wear or fail will have been replaced, sometimes even upgraded parts where the original ones had issues ie. Ford V6 pump shafts or fibre timing gears.

    interesting, i totally ignored that possiblity.
    Yes the insurance may not cover a vehicle with a different type of engine. But unless they removed the old diesel and fitted a supercharged V8 then it wont be a different type of engine.

    Engines can fail in new vehicles. Its fairly rare these days but does happen. A like for like engine rebuild etc is not an insurance issue.

    so would you say its a dealbreaker then?

    btw, I spoke to him on the phone few mins earlier, he said he can provide all the paper work and the engine is still the same engine. he also told me that its eco friendly so I don't have pay as much charge or somerthing like that
  • facade
    facade Posts: 7,588 Forumite
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    What you are losing sight of is that he didn't have to tell you about the engine, and then you wouldn't be worried.

    I'd be worried that a 6 year old transit has only got 70,000 on the clock in the first place.
    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science ;))
  • Amazin
    Amazin Posts: 117 Forumite
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    I'd be worried that a 6 year old transit has only got 70,000 on the clock in the first place.

    please please elaborate
  • Joe_Horner
    Joe_Horner Posts: 4,895 Forumite
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    Amazin wrote: »
    please please elaborate

    Transits are working vehicles and quite expensive to buy new, so the first owner or two tend to get their money's worth with high mileage. Just under 12k per year is on the low side for the sort of use they normally get and, while obviously possible, could be clocked.
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