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ParkingEye Borehamwood POPLA Appeal

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[FONT=&quot]13 days left to submit this appeal to POPLA so any tips would be appreciated.[/FONT]

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[FONT=&quot]Philip
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[FONT=&quot]Re: ParkingEye PCN, reference code xxxxxxxxxx
POPLA Code:

I am the registered keeper and I wish to appeal a recent parking charge from ParkingEye. I submit the points below to show that I am not liable for the parking charge:

1) No genuine pre-estimate of loss
2) No standing or authority to pursue charges nor form contracts with drivers
3) The ANPR system is unreliable and neither synchronised nor accurate

1) No genuine pre-estimate of loss
This car park is a free shopping car park limited to 3 hours parking, which it is alleged I overstayed.

In ParkingEye v Smith at Manchester County Court in 2011, claim number 1XJ81016, the original claim of £240 was deemed an unrecoverable penalty, unrelated to damages incurred and the only sum that could be recovered was deemed to be £15 (the amount of the pay and display fee for more than one visit). The entirety of the parking charge must be a genuine pre-estimate of loss in order to be enforceable. As the PCN sum is massively inflated, I require ParkingEye to submit a breakdown of how this sum was calculated prior to the parking event, as being capable of directly flowing from a minor alleged breach.

The ParkingEye Notice to Keeper alleges 'breach of terms/failure to comply' and as such, the landowner/occupier (not their agent) can only pursue liquidated damages directly flowing from the parking event. This might be, for example, a reasonable sum based purely upon the alleged lost parking revenue, or even loss of retail revenue at a shopping centre if another car was prevented from parking. However, this is not the case because the occupants of the car recall that the car park was almost empty on arrival and when the driver left.

The Operator cannot reasonably claim a broad percentage of their entire business running costs as they operate various different arrangements, some where they pay a landowner a huge amount akin to a 'fishing licence' to catch motorists and some where they have pay and display, and others which are free car parks. Given that ParkingEye charge the same lump sum for a 30 minute overstay as they would for 3 hours, and the same fixed charge applies to any alleged contravention (whether serious/damaging or trifling), it is clear there has been no regard paid to establishing that this charge is a genuine pre-estimate of loss caused by this incident in this car park.

The DfT Guidance and the BPA Code of Practice require that a parking charge for an alleged breach must be an estimate of losses flowing from the incident. ParkingEye cannot change this requirement so they have no option but to show POPLA their genuine pre-estimate of loss for this charge, not some subsequently penned 'commercial justification' statement they may have devised afterwards (since this would not be a pre-estimate):

The British Parking Association Code of Practice uses the word 'MUST':
"19.5 If the parking charge that the driver is being asked to pay is for a breach of contract or act of trespass, this charge must be based on the genuine pre-estimate of loss that you suffer.''

Neither is this charge 'commercially justified'. In answer to that proposition from a PPC which had got over-excited about the ParkingEye v Beavis small claims decision (now being taken to the Court of Appeal by Mr Beavis anyway) POPLA Assessor Chris Adamson has stated in June 2014 that:

''In each case that I have seen from the higher courts...it is made clear that a charge cannot be commercially justified where the dominant purpose of the charge is to deter the other party from breach. This is most clearly stated in Lordsvale Finance Plc v Bank of Zambia [1996] QB 752, quoted approvingly at paragraph 15 in Cine Bes Filmcilik Ve Yapimcilik & Anor v United International Pictures & Ors [2003] EWHC Civ 1669 when Coleman J states a clause should not be struck down as a penalty, “if the increase could in the circumstances be explained as commercially justifiable, provided always that its dominant purpose was not to deter the other party from breach”.

This supports the principle that the aim of damages is to be compensatory, beginning with the idea that the aim is to put the parties in the position they would have been in had the contract been performed. It also seems that courts have been unwilling to allow clauses designed to deter breach as this undermines the binding nature of the initial promise made. Whilst the courts have reasonably moved away from a strict interpretation of what constitutes a genuine pre-estimate of loss, recognising that in complex commercial situations an accurate pre-estimate will not always be possible, nevertheless it remains that a charge for damages must be compensatory in nature rather than punitive.''

2) No standing or authority to pursue charges nor form contracts with drivers [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]I believe that ParkingEye has no proprietary interest in the land, so they have no standing to make contracts with drivers in their own right, nor to pursue charges for breach in their own name. In the absence of such title, ParkingEye must have assignment of rights from the landowner to pursue charges for breach in their own right, including at court level. This has not been produced by the operator in their rejection statement so I have no proof that such a document is in existence. I contend that ParkingEye merely did hold a bare licence to supply and maintain (non compliant) signs and to post out 'tickets' as a deterrent. A commercial site agent for the true landholder has no automatic standing nor authority in their own right which would meet the strict requirements of section 7 of the BPA Code of Practice.

I therefore put ParkingEye to strict proof to provide POPLA and myself with an unredacted, contemporaneous copy of the contract between ParkingEye and the landowner. This is required so that POPLA and myself can check that it allows this Operator to make contracts with drivers themselves and provides them with full authority to pursue charges, including a right to pursue them in court in their own name. Please note that a witness statement to the effect that a contract is or was in place will not be sufficient to provide sufficient detail of the contract terms (such as revenue sharing, genuine intentions of these restrictions and charges, set amounts to charge for each stated contravention, etc.). In any case, ParkingEye's witness statements have been exposed as photocopy templates from clients who may well have no knowledge of any individual parking event and the signatory may never even have seen the contract.

3) The ANPR system is unreliable and neither synchronised nor accurate

If ParkingEye's ANPR records are completely reliable (which I contest) then this Operator claims the car was parked longer than the free time allocated. And yet their evidence shows no parking time, merely photos of a car driving in and out, which does not discount the possibility of a double visit that day.

This Operator is obliged to ensure their ANPR equipment is maintained as described in paragraph 21.3 of the BPA Code of Practice and to have signs stating how the data will be stored/used. I say that Parking Eye have failed to clearly inform drivers about the cameras and what the data will be used for and how it will be used and stored. I have also seen no evidence that they have complied with the other requirements in that section of the code in terms of ANPR logs and maintenance and I put this Operator to strict proof of full ANPR compliance.

In addition I question the entire reliability of the system. I require that ParkingEye present records as to the dates and times of when the cameras at this car park were checked, adjusted, calibrated, synchronised with the timer which stamps the photos and generally maintained to ensure the accuracy of the dates and times of any ANPR images. This is important because the entirety of the charge is founded on two images purporting to show my vehicle entering and exiting at specific times. It is vital that this Operator must produce evidence in response and explain to POPLA how their system differs (if at all) from the flawed ANPR system, which was wholly responsible for the court loss recently in ParkingEye v Fox-Jones on 8 Nov 2013. That case was dismissed when the judge said the evidence from ParkingEye was fundamentally flawed because the synchronisation of the camera pictures with the timer had been called into question and the operator could not rebut the point.

So, in addition to showing their maintenance records, I require ParkingEye to show evidence to rebut the following assertion. I suggest that in the case of my vehicle being in this car park, a local camera took the image but a remote server added the time stamp. As the two are disconnected by the internet and do not have a common "time synchronisation system", there is no proof that the time stamp added is actually the exact time of the image. The operator appears to use WIFI, which introduces a delay through buffering, so "live" is not really "live". Hence without a synchronised time stamp there is no evidence that the image is ever time stamped with an accurate time. Therefore I contend that this ANPR "evidence" from the cameras in this car park is just as unreliable as the evidence in the Fox-Jones case.

I request that my appeal is allowed.

Yours faithfully,[/FONT]
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Comments

  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    add a signage section too
  • pbsimon
    pbsimon Posts: 14 Forumite
    Thanks.

    There was a signage section in the original template we found but we didn't know enough about the car park to know how accurate that was and were worried that would affect our case.

    With some editing this is what we could add:
  • pbsimon
    pbsimon Posts: 14 Forumite
    Any photos supplied by ParkingEye to POPLA will no doubt show the signs in daylight or with the misleading aid of a close up camera & flash and the angle may well not show how high the signs are. As such, I require ParkingEye to state the height of each sign in their response and to show contemporaneous photo evidence of these signs in the dark without the aid of flash photography. Unreadable signage breaches Appendix B of the BPA Code of Practice which states that terms on entrance signs must be clearly readable without a driver having to turn away from the road ahead. A Notice is not imported into the contract unless brought home so prominently that the party 'must' have known of it and agreed terms beforehand. Nothing about this Operator's onerous inflated 'parking charges' was sufficiently prominent and it is clear that the requirements for forming a contract (i.e. consideration flowing between the two parties, offer, acceptance and fairness and transparency of terms offered in good faith) were not satisfied
  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    question it anyway, its their task to prove it meets the BPA CoP , not yours, but only if you query it, if you dont query it, it wont be considered

    now if you assume that most signage is deficient, its a bad omission to make

    so even some vague query that covers any car park is better than nothing at all

    so just adjust any appeal point and remove stuff you are not sure about, like daylight, , nighttime , heights etc , leaving in the stuff that applies to any car park

    make them prove it
  • pbsimon
    pbsimon Posts: 14 Forumite
    Thanks.

    Out of interest, the initial rejection from parkingeye quoted a court hearing (parkingeye v Barry Beavis and Martin Wardley) presided over by HHJ Moloney QC. Does anyone know this case? It was cited by parkingeye as evidence of a case they won to put us off of appealing through POPLA, stating that "a parking charge of £85 could not be considered an unenforceable penalty, so judgment went in favour of parkingeye".
  • Zero_Gravitas
    Zero_Gravitas Posts: 583 Forumite
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    edited 5 April 2015 at 1:59PM
    This case is very well known on here - and is very well known to Parking Eye; but the part they have omitted to tell you is that Mr. Beavis appealed the original decision to the Court of Appeal. The case was held at the Court of Appeal in February, and the judgement is expected in the next few weeks.


    This means in practical terms that the original judgement is meaningless, as the case has been appealed and it is frankly disingenuous of Parking Eye not to tell you the case is being appealed.


    However, this has not stopped Parking Eye from putting pressure on POPLA to hold all appeals against Parking Eye until after the Beavis decision is known.


    The technical term for this is having one's cake and eating it.


    As far as you are concerned, you should submit your POPLA appeal as planned, taking into account the good advice given above.
  • pbsimon
    pbsimon Posts: 14 Forumite
    Thanks, that is really interesting and telling. Do you think it is worth mentioning this in the appeal to POPLA, or just going with the original letter?
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    It is definitely worth putting in, you might find a bright young adjudicator who considers such practices dishonest.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • socrates
    socrates Posts: 2,889 Forumite
    I admire your tenacity
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    Have you read this?

    http://www.borehamwoodtimes.co.uk/news/11213175.Parking_fine_victory_for_Borehamwood_motorist/?ref=mr

    They refused to show the judge their contract.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
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