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UKCPS and Urban Splash

I rent a parking space from Urban Splash at a cost of £80pm. I received a windscreen ticket from UKCPS shortly followed by a letter demanding payment of £125 for parking in the space I rent. The letter states I was parking 'without a valid permit or authority'. I have a windscreen permit that was visible at the time of the ticket.

I've read the guides but I was just wondering as I actually rent the space and have a valid permit for it, is the procedure any different? Should I contact Urban Splash first?

Comments

  • bod1467
    bod1467 Posts: 15,214 Forumite
    Do the terms of your lease specify that a permit must be displayed?

    If yes, is/was your permit up to date?

    ALWAYS contact the landowner.
  • Marktheshark
    Marktheshark Posts: 5,841 Forumite
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    They run a self ticket phone app system, so it is likely to be someone in the car park on commission trying it on, think they get £10 for everyone who pays.
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    I do Contracts, all day every day.
  • bod1467
    bod1467 Posts: 15,214 Forumite
    I though self-ticket phone apps didn't actually print out a ticket? Rather they uploaded to a central system which then sent out a postal ticket to the keeper. (OP says they received a windscreen ticket).
  • Marktheshark
    Marktheshark Posts: 5,841 Forumite
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    Might be on the old system, where they gave them a book of tickets, still get £10 from what I am informed.
    I do Contracts, all day every day.
  • hankkosovo
    hankkosovo Posts: 101 Forumite
    bod1467 wrote: »
    Do the terms of your lease specify that a permit must be displayed?

    If yes, is/was your permit up to date?

    ALWAYS contact the landowner.

    No the lease terms do not state that a permit must be displayed, only that I am allowed to park in the bay/bays that I pay for.

    When I was given the permit I was told to keep it in the car window so that I wouldn't get a ticket, but nothing in my lease states that I HAVE to show the permit.

    The permit however was displayed, and there is no date on it, it just has the number of the parking bay I have been assigned.
  • bod1467
    bod1467 Posts: 15,214 Forumite
    Dear UKCPS,

    This is my appeal ref. PCN XXXXXX

    I pay for the parking space [number/identifier] in which my vehicle was parked, as such I am the leaseholder for that space. Accordingly I am entitled to quiet enjoyment of my property, and my lease defines no requirement whatsoever to display a permit (albeit a valid permit was displayed at the time of this PCN). I require you to cancel this PCN immediately - as the defacto landowner for this parking space you cannot ignore this instruction. Any further pursuance by UKCPS in respect of this PCN will be vigorously defended.

    Furthermore, I formally withdraw any implied right of access to my property to you, your employees and your agents. Any further placement of PCNs on any vehicle will be classed as trespass and will be pursued accordingly ... I am sure you will be familiar with UKPC v Davey. As such I suggest you instruct your employees/agents to add my parking space to a whitelist, so as to not affix any PCNs to any vehicle that may be using said space.

    Yours faithfully,
    NAME


    Maybe wait for others to fine tune the above, but that's the thrust of it. :)
  • hankkosovo
    hankkosovo Posts: 101 Forumite
    bod1467 wrote: »
    Dear UKCPS,

    This is my appeal ref. PCN XXXXXX

    I pay for the parking space [number/identifier] in which my vehicle was parked, as such I am the leaseholder for that space. Accordingly I am entitled to quiet enjoyment of my property, and my lease defines no requirement whatsoever to display a permit (albeit a valid permit was displayed at the time of this PCN). I require you to cancel this PCN immediately - as the defacto landowner for this parking space you cannot ignore this instruction. Any further pursuance by UKCPS in respect of this PCN will be vigorously defended.

    Furthermore, I formally withdraw any implied right of access to my property to you, your employees and your agents. Any further placement of PCNs on any vehicle will be classed as trespass and will be pursued accordingly ... I am sure you will be familiar with UKPC v Davey. As such I suggest you instruct your employees/agents to add my parking space to a whitelist, so as to not affix any PCNs to any vehicle that may be using said space.

    Yours faithfully,
    NAME


    Maybe wait for others to fine tune the above, but that's the thrust of it. :)

    Thanks so much :)
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    Drop the v.a.t. bomb on them

    If the PPC are claiming that the funny money they want is a contractually agreed charge, they should, if they have a turnover of £75,000, account for vat. Further reading here.

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...7925&highlight=

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...3796&highlight=

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...5195437&page=4
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
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