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Selling a buy to let property - tax question

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  • westernpromise
    westernpromise Posts: 4,833 Forumite
    booksurr wrote: »
    SDLT is a cost of the acquisition and is therefore an allowable deduction
    see page 14
    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/382045/cgt-land-buildings.pdf

    But what if you bought it, lived in it and then let it? Does any of the original stamp duty go against the CGT?
  • booksurr
    booksurr Posts: 3,700 Forumite
    edited 28 March 2015 at 5:15PM
    I'm completely lost, sorry. I can't follow any of the examples in that thread.

    - Bought August 1999, let April 2004, selling say August 2015
    - Total ownership period 192 months
    - Lived in 56 months
    - Let out 136 months

    Gross gain 730,000

    What's next?

    PRR 730,000 x 56/192 = 212,917

    LR, lowest of :
    a) 212,917 or
    b) 730,000 x 136/192 = 517,083 or
    c) max allowed 40,000

    net taxable gain
    730,000 - 212,917 - 40,000 = 477,083 less personal allowance 11,000 = 466,083

    tax payable, let us assume you have a gross salary of 30,000 and no other income... remember the Higher Rate tax bracket starts at 42,386

    payable at 18%: 42,386 - 30,000 = 12,386 x 18% = 2,229
    payable at 28%: 466,083 - 12,386 = 453,697 x 28% = 127,035

    total tax payable 129,264
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    further to booksurr excellent post, you can deduct the buying and selling costs from your gross gain of 730,000
    i.e. solicitors, estate agents, surveys and apparently stamp duty
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  • Annie1960
    Annie1960 Posts: 3,009 Forumite
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    But what if you bought it, lived in it and then let it? Does any of the original stamp duty go against the CGT?

    No.

    Only capital expenditure can be offset, as CGT is a capital tax.

    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/cgmanual/CG15150.htm
  • anselld
    anselld Posts: 8,747 Forumite
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    edited 29 March 2015 at 9:26AM
    Annie1960 wrote: »
    No.

    Only capital expenditure can be offset, as CGT is a capital tax.

    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/cgmanual/CG15150.htm

    The incidental costs of buying and selling the capital asset *can* be offset, eg SDLT, legal fees, EA Fees, etc.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1992/12/section/38/enacted

    S38(2). "costs of transfer or conveyance (including stamp duty)"
  • booksurr
    booksurr Posts: 3,700 Forumite
    edited 29 March 2015 at 9:21AM
    Annie1960 wrote: »
    No.

    Only capital expenditure can be offset, as CGT is a capital tax.

    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/manuals/cgmanual/CG15150.htm
    incorrect - as already shown in earlier post
    the introductory section you quote is just that, an introduction to the concept of capital (as opposed to revenue)
    the whole cost of the SDLT is allowable, just the same as the whole cost of the EA and legal fees associated with the original purchase are allowable
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