Does your employer tell you when to take your annual leave?

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My employer has recently decided that everyone must book 2 weeks leave during the ‘Summer months‘ (July/August/Sptember) I know September isn‘t summer but these seems to be the worst months for getting leave, plus it covers most of the school summer holidays.

I‘ve recentlymoved to term time working, so I‘m off anyway for 6 weeks from the end of July to the 2nd week in September so had assumed that this wouldn‘t affect me. Oh how wrong I was. I still have to book 2 weeks , either together or 2 seperate weeks during these months.

My issue is that as I now work part time/term time my average working week is just over 21 hours which is what my annual leave is calculated from (31.5 days at 4.31 hours per day) so I get about 135 hours anual leave.

However, whilst my average working week is 21.57 hours, I actualy work 30 hours a week for 38 weeks a year. That means that if I am forced to take 2 weeks off in these months, despite the fact I don‘t actually work for 6 weeks during that period, I would have to use 60 hours leave which is almost half of the annual entitlement I get.

Hopefully I can get them to see sense.

The standard practice with term time working is that you work term time and all the holiday accrued gets taken/paid outside term time so it makes no differences which of the not working weeks they acually pay as there are more than the accrued holidays..

You should be getting the holiday prorata for the weeks worked


your numbers don't add up.
4.31* 5 is 21.55
4.31* 31.5 is 135.765.
21.57 * 52 is 1121.64.
30*38 is 1140.


Anyway if the full timers(52 weeks) get 31.5 days(6.3 weeks) holiday a 38 week workers should get 38* 6.3/45.7 = 5.24 weeks == 26.2 days == 6hr days 157.2hrs.

Are there any days of in the 38 weeks working they should use up holidays?

balancelife

We get a pretty generous deal, works out 48 days for full timers .... 10 of those days are shut down days- around Christmas, extra days around bank holidays and a random few days. 8 bank holiday and then 30 flexible booking.
We can have 2 weeks at a time max and half a day min. Only 2 off in a team at a time (teams of about 6). Usually there's a meeting at the beginning of jan to book in and discuss as a team and agree but you can book later than that if you aren't bothered about the popular school holiday weeks!

DD265

We don't work public holidays but apart from that no.

They do stipulate when we need to have booked our holiday by though so that they can plan resource for projects.

So far I have found them to be extremely flexible (compared to my last employer who said no holidays were allowed during 4 months of the year!)

martyp

I've experienced restrictions on holidays too, my last job was a breath of fresh air as you could book holiday any time with 24 hours notice and it felt great.
Several of my jobs were rota based with operational requirements for staffing so if say 2 people were off at any one time you couldn't take holiday. It was really annoying at times, people would often try and bargain with colleagues to not take time off so they could have it off. There used to be a fight to book weeks off during the summer, people booked their holidays a year in advance sometimes to secure the week.
One job a guy booked up his wedding and honeymoon and was told he couldn't have the time off as two others had booked that week off.
Another job you couldn't take more than a day off in a week between September and April or something like that but could have a long weekend (Fri-Mon). All holiday had to be during the summer or a special 2 weeks in December (which I couldn't have as my colleague booked them before me!).

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In my office, everyone applies for the majority of their AL in January for the following April-March tax/holiday year. Managers put all of it on a calendar and as long as there aren't more than 3.5 staff off at a time, it's fine. This time, seven people asked for the same week off in August so we were all asked to switch if possible which I did, as I had no specific plans and others wanted to book trips etc.
They prefer us to take full weeks rather than odd days but they can't tell us when to take or how to split our AL.

prowla

My employer imposes the 3 days between Christmas and New Year.
I've taken them every year anyway, so it's not an issue for me.

Sanne

We have to take three days between Christmas and New Year but, other than that, can book when we want to, providing that we give sufficient notice (I think twice the amount of holidays we want to take but could be three times) and that cover is in the office.

For me this means that I can't take time off at the same time as my manager (as I cover for him) nor at the same time as one of my direct reports (as I cover for him, too).

For my husband it's quite restrictive - he has to fill in a holiday sheet to book all his holidays way in advance (around October this year he'll get the sheet for April 2016 - April 2017) and the boss will then decide which weeks he gets - which aren't usually the ones he wants. They always have to be full weeks, too and from Monday to Friday so no odd day off here or there. If the holidays he hasn't been given don't suit there's only the chance of trying to find a colleague to swap with; one of the guys saved us when my OH didn't get the week we were getting married in!!!