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Tarmacking

Hi all.


I wish to tarmac the gravel part of the picture below.


I have a few questions:
1) Should the existing tarmacked area be re-tarmacked at the same time?
2) How much would that area cost to tarmac?
3) Is there likely to be drainage problems?
4) Do I get the council to lower the pavement in front of the gravel area?
5) If yes to 4) does the council convert the grassy bit to tarmac or do I get the tarmacking company to do it. As it's technically not my property, I want to be sure.


Thanks,


AMO




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  • Confused now.

    You've just said "technically not my property".

    What does that mean? Is it on your Title Plan?
  • AMO
    AMO Posts: 1,464 Forumite
    Confused now.

    You've just said "technically not my property".

    What does that mean? Is it on your Title Plan?



    Sorry, I meant that the kerb area isn't my property. As I understand it, the pavement area belongs to the council and therefore I could be in trouble if I converted the grassy bit. I therefore assume that if the council does the dropped kerb it would tarmac the grassy bit next to the kerb?
  • TonyMMM
    TonyMMM Posts: 3,430 Forumite
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    edited 15 March 2015 at 12:26PM
    If the area is more than 5sqm, which it looks like it is, you will need planning permission to replace the permeable gravel with a non-permeable replacement (tarmac), because of the rules about drainage.

    You can't touch the grass area (it's not yours) - the council might agree to the work, and to drop the kerb, but you have to apply to them and they will charge you for it.
  • Babbawah
    Babbawah Posts: 685 Forumite
    What's your budget?

    It'd be worth your time to ask the council how much they'd charge just to drop the kerb, the last time I asked it was £4k for a 30' section !

    IIWM I'd be happy to keep the gravel, but if a hard standing was essential then I'd block pave the area keeping it a seperate landscape 'feature'.
  • chancesare_2
    chancesare_2 Posts: 1,788 Forumite
    edited 14 March 2015 at 6:55PM
    You need to check with your council to establish if your require planning, some do, some don't. As for the "grassy bit", there's no "technicality", it isn't yours. Neither is the path joining it to your 'parking area'.

    Lose the K. It's tarmacing.
  • Johnhowell
    Johnhowell Posts: 692 Forumite
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    A couple of points:


    As you already have a dropped kerb (footway crossing) you may not be able to get the extra length done,


    Also if a company talks about tarmacking then I would be concerned as tarmac has been replaced by asphalt and more commonly bituminous bound materials. I would require any paving company to tell me exactly how they are going to lay the drive - thickness and material, size of aggregate, etc. of the sub-base, base/binder course and the surface course.


    If they talk about hoggin/hardcore for the sub-base walk away...


    Only IMHO...
  • AMO
    AMO Posts: 1,464 Forumite
    Okay - I've got a quote just to tarmac the pebbled area. It's £1860+VAT.


    If they scrape off the tarmac from the rest of the tarmacked area and re-tarmac that also, it's £2500 + VAT.


    Do those values seem reasonable?


    Thanks.
  • DRP
    DRP Posts: 4,287 Forumite
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    AMO wrote: »
    Okay - I've got a quote just to tarmac the pebbled area. It's £1860+VAT.


    If they scrape off the tarmac from the rest of the tarmacked area and re-tarmac that also, it's £2500 + VAT.


    Do those values seem reasonable?


    Thanks.

    have you researched the permeable>non-permeable issue raised by TonyMMM above?
  • giraffe69
    giraffe69 Posts: 3,613 Forumite
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    When we had this done (no dropped kerb part of it) the local authority would not allow tarmac if the drive sloped towards the road. There had to be a way of dealing with run off water. I believe this has been standard for a while now. Don't know how well enforced it is but there might be an issue of you do it and come to sell so best as already advised to check matters with the council.
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