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Just checking I am doing the right thing.


I deal with all the finances in the house, I am about to send a cheque off for the new Pensioner bonds.


My husband is neither computer savvy, or financially savvy so my thought is that if I do the bonds 'joint' then if I happen to pop me clogs, the bonds/money will automatically become his..... as is the same in a joint current bank account.
make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
and we will never, ever return.

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  • teddysmum
    teddysmum Posts: 9,521 Forumite
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    McKneff wrote: »
    Just checking I am doing the right thing.


    I deal with all the finances in the house, I am about to send a cheque off for the new Pensioner bonds.


    My husband is neither computer savvy, or financially savvy so my thought is that if I do the bonds 'joint' then if I happen to pop me clogs, the bonds/money will automatically become his..... as is the same in a joint current bank account.
    I bought ours by phone on Thursday evening. Payment was by debit card and the whole process took under half an hour. It took only a couple of minutes to get through.


    The downside of having joint accounts is that, should one of you need care for which you need to pay, the other could lose out.




    For simplicity, lets assume the asset level for help is £25000 and you have a joint assets of £60000.


    Perhaps, one would expect that once the person needing care had paid out £5000, bringing their share to £25000, help would kick in, but , as things stand,that s not the case.


    Once the £5000 is gone, the joint assets are now £55000,meaning the person is assumed to still have £27500.


    Help will only be given when the joint total is down to £50000, meaning £25000 each.


    If the monies were separate, it would only be required that the person needing care's assets fall below £25000, leaving the other person with £30000.
  • McKneff
    McKneff Posts: 38,857 Forumite
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    Its all very complicated, I think we might just book a round the world cruise and blow the lot....


    Thanks for your input.
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
  • PeacefulWaters
    PeacefulWaters Posts: 8,495 Forumite
    McKneff wrote: »
    Its all very complicated, I think we might just book a round the world cruise and blow the lot....


    Thanks for your input.


    Do it. You only live once!
  • 2010
    2010 Posts: 5,493 Forumite
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    McKneff wrote: »
    Its all very complicated, I think we might just book a round the world cruise and blow the lot....

    A great idea.:T

    If you are going to buy the bonds go down the joint route as i have,
    They do go to the surviving spouse.
    Phone, online or post, it doesn`t matter as they are still available.
    The big panic when they first came out was
    that they`d run out.

    68
    For all Bonds that are held jointly:
    (a)
    The Bond is the joint property of both joint
    Bond holders.
    (b)
    In the event of the death of one of the joint
    Bond holders
    , ownership will pass to the survivor
    who will be entitled to manage the Bond on the
    same terms.
    (c)
    All correspondence
    , including statements and
    investment records (see paragraphs 70 to 73)
    will be sent to the Bond holder named first on
    the application to purchase the Bond.
    (d)
    Upon the application of both of the Bond
    holders
    , we may remove the name of either
    person from the title of the Bond.
    69
    For Bonds purchased jointly:
    (a)
    Where the Bond holders have registered to use
    the Service in respect of that Bond,
    they will
    each have a separate password and separate
    security information.
    (b)
    We will accept instructions, including
    instructions to cash in the Bond, from either
    Bond holder acting independently.

    http://www.nsandi.com/files/published_files/asset/pdf/65-guaranteed-growth-bonds-brochure.pdf
  • McKneff wrote: »
    Its all very complicated, I think we might just book a round the world cruise and blow the lot....

    Go for it :D
  • teddysmum
    teddysmum Posts: 9,521 Forumite
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    Go for it :D




    Certainly, but have separate bonds, for the reason above.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 12,492 Forumite
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    edited 16 April 2015 at 6:19AM
    I have been through the death of a spouse with joint bonds. Transfer didn`t happen, ns&i as usual were utterly incompetent and the full bond value, including ny half, plus interest was sent to me in the form of two cheques, even after I requested that the bonds be held afterwards in my sole name.

    I have since re-applied for sole bonds in my name by post but only in the single value and I haven`t heard anything at all since then, even though the cheque was cashed two weeks ago

    ns&i have been by far the worst financial institution re dealing with my husbands financial affairs and to top all that they locked me out of my internet account after my husbands death. No wonder money goes missing in thin air. I am still locked out and they can do nothing by phone
  • alanq
    alanq Posts: 4,216 Forumite
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    edited 16 April 2015 at 11:25AM
    I knew that NS&I services had been outsourced to Siemens (now ATOS) but the following came as news to me.

    "Some back office functions have been outsourced to Atos offices in India. Staff members were actively engaged in developing training programmes for all core processes and, in some cases, training new employees in India. The move to a part offshore model was accomplished without customers being aware of the changes. To date, more than 27 million transactions have been handled in India, allowing employees in the UK to concentrate on customer-facing duties, including call centre enquiries."

    https://uk.atos.net/content/dam/uk/case-study/your-business/atos-case-study-nsi-achieving%20business%20transformation.pdf
  • kidmugsy
    kidmugsy Posts: 12,709 Forumite
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    McKneff wrote: »
    if I do the bonds 'joint' then if I happen to pop me clogs, the bonds/money will automatically become his..... as is the same in a joint current bank account.

    Tax? Are you both 20% taxpayers? Or are you banking on the £1000 p.a. of savings interest being tax-free in 16-17 surviving the new government?
    Free the dunston one next time too.
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