Could i put woodburner stove in brick summerhouse?

muckybutt

martinsurrey wrote: »

please can you explain why?

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/responsibilities/buildingregulations/approvalneeded/exemptions

the OP is building a small detached brick outbuilding (smaller than 30msq as just a little bit bigger than a garage).

Which means it is excempt, from parts a-k, m,n,l and p (EDIT: I was wrong on Part P, electrical saftey, it IS applicable), of the building regulations as it falls under class 6 of works exempt from building regulations.

but please do share if you know differently.

All solid fuelled appliances installed have to meet the requirements of Doc J of building regs, once installed they need signing off as installed correctly and safely, there are no exemptions for this. Think of it like GAS safe for the likes of gas boilers or fires if you want, you wouldn't put a boiler in without getting it inspected and signed off would you ?.
I am a certified chimney sweep BTW that's how I know the regs concerned.

Part J and the Solid Fuel association http://www.solidfuel.co.uk/pdfs/buidling_regs_consumer_leaflet.pdf

martinsurrey

muckybutt wrote: »

All solid fuelled appliances installed have to meet the requirements of Doc J of building regs, once installed they need signing off as installed correctly and safely, there are no exemptions for this. Think of it like GAS safe for the likes of gas boilers or fires if you want, you wouldn't put a boiler in without getting it inspected and signed off would you ?.
I am a certified chimney sweep BTW that's how I know the regs concerned.

Part J and the Solid Fuel association http://www.solidfuel.co.uk/pdfs/buidling_regs_consumer_leaflet.pdf

did you read the link?

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/responsibilities/buildingregulations/approvalneeded/exemptions

how does a class 6 building reg exemption, which exempts small detached outbuildings built from non combustable materials from parts a-k of the building regs, which includes j not apply.

I'm not saying he should do it, but it perfectly legal for him to self install and tell no one in the case described.

I have no doubt you know how the regs apply in residential buildings, but the regs dont apply at all in this case.

longwalks1

martinsurrey wrote: »

probably not

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permission/responsibilities/buildingregulations/approvalneeded/exemptions

as long as its under 30m2 and is a certain meets certain distance from boudary rules, its exempt from building regulations (class 6).

Thanks all
I was hoping to remove part of the side and back boundary fences, and use the boundary lines as the side and rear of the building, is this an issue?

longwalks1

martinsurrey wrote: »

while that is a tragedy, I think calling it a summerhouse is a bit much. He was living in it, and as building regs apply to all structures with sleeping accomodation, they should have been followed for the stove.

the OP could legally fit a stove in a shed without getting planning or buiding regs.

Whether he should or not is a different question.

Definately NOT be sleeping in there, hoping it to have a woodburner, couple of chairs/sofas to sit in there and enjoy peace away from the house

longwalks1

muckybutt wrote: »

A stove fitted in there WILL need Part J approval and sign off by a HETAS fitter or the local council.

Solid fueled appliance regulations do require them to be fitted by either a competent person - and subsequently inspected and signed off by the LA, or you can have it fitted by a HETAS approved installer and they can self certify the installation and submit the paperwork to the council.

Thanks muckybutt, I'm hoping to source and fit the stove myself (with the help of my builder) and then get it inspected/tested once in stalled.
As I'm hoping to have the flue exit straight up through the roof (which will be almost flat but not quite, sloping back for drainage) and wasnt sure if any building inspectors who may visit (unsure if I'll need them to visit?) would ask about the hole in the roof

muckybutt

If you are having it through the roof you will need a twin wall insulated flue and a sufficent air gap around the flue.

Have a read of this it will make things a little clearer, I would say as well to take photos as you actually do the install as the council often like to see just how things have been done. http://www.stovefittersmanual.co.uk/articles/installing-a-twin-wall-flue-chimney/