Ocado oyster food poisoning - they deleted my review!

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Tee hee caught

Money-Saving-King

binary0110 wrote: »

I would also like to think that a retailer would like their customers to be informed about risks of consuming their products. Wouldn't you?

Do you seriously think one day you'll see warning signs on the front of products saying "YOU MIGHT GET FOOD POISONING EATING THIS PRODUCT".

Can't quite see it myself!

Fosterdog

Did you actually have food poisoning (diagnosed by a doctor after taking blood and stool samples, including the type of food poisoning) or did you just have a dicky stomach after eating them and diagnosed yourself as having food poisoning?

binary0110

shaun_from_Africa wrote: »

In one post you state no less than 5 times that it isn't certain that the oysters caused your sickness:
"I admit that I don't have proof",
"There is no way of having any definitive proof",
"It is possible, likely or probable but nothing can be proved",
"On the balance of probability",
"It is likely to have been caused by the oysters"

Yet in your review on the Ocado website and despite the many admissions shown above, you clearly state that the oysters were to blame. No doubt or lack of proof mentioned anywhere.

"These oysters gave both me and my partner food poisoning"

One other point.
On this thread you only mentioned you getting sick and even went so far as to state that the chances of one oyster in the pack of 12 being bad yet in your Ocado review, it became both you and your partner who got food poisoning.
Not embellishing the truth were you?

It was both myself and my partner. As I have already said, there is no way of proving that any food product can cause food poisoning but it is likely. Particularly as because two people got ill and that was the only raw food item both of us ate at the same time. If you like, I can edit it to say that "we ate these oysters and then we got food poisoning". Would that make you feel better?

Fosterdog wrote: »

Did you actually have food poisoning (diagnosed by a doctor after taking blood and stool samples, including the type of food poisoning) or did you just have a dicky stomach after eating them and diagnosed yourself as having food poisoning?

I don't know why this point isn't getting across - you cannot prove the source of food poisoning by taking blood and stool samples. Doctors do not routinely perform blood tests or stool samples for cases of food poisoning. The diagnosis is made on clinical grounds. Blood/stool samples would only be taken for protracted illnesses of over 2 weeks duration. In any event, you shouldn't be attending your GP if you have food poisoning and certainly shouldn't expect them to perform stool and blood tests. In the first instance, this should be managed with self care.

Money-Saving-King wrote: »

Do you seriously think one day you'll see warning signs on the front of products saying "YOU MIGHT GET FOOD POISONING EATING THIS PRODUCT".

Can't quite see it myself!

Really? I think that it is quite reasonable to warn people that eating raw oysters puts them at higher risk food poisoning and that cooking them can reduce the risk. After all, we label cigarettes with prominent advertising that they might cause lung cancer. Had I done all this research before buying the product I probably would have cooked them (at least lightly) beforehand.

Poppie68

binary0110 wrote: »

It was both myself and my partner. As I have already said, there is no way of proving that any food product can cause food poisoning but it is likely. Particularly as because two people got ill and that was the only raw food item both of us ate at the same time. If you like, I can edit it to say that "we ate these oysters and then we got food poisoning". Would that make you feel better?




I don't know why this point isn't getting across - you cannot prove the source of food poisoning by taking blood and stool samples. Doctors do not routinely perform blood tests or stool samples for cases of food poisoning. The diagnosis is made on clinical grounds. Blood/stool samples would only be taken for protracted illnesses of over 2 weeks duration. In any event, you shouldn't be attending your GP if you have food poisoning and certainly shouldn't expect them to perform stool and blood tests. In the first instance, this should be managed with self care.




Really? I think that it is quite reasonable to warn people that eating raw oysters puts them at higher risk food poisoning and that cooking them can reduce the risk. After all, we label cigarettes with prominent advertising that they might cause lung cancer. Had I done all this research before buying the product I probably would have cooked them (at least lightly) beforehand.

Others on here understand perfectly what you are saying in regards to tests not being appropriate, they are questioning your review stating the oysters gave you food poisoning when in fact you can't prove it was the oysters without tests, therefore you can't write reviews blaming something without proof.


You should visit your GP if the symptoms are lasting more than 48hrs, and stool samples and blood tests can be taken if warranted from the outset.

binary0110

Poppie68 wrote: »

Others on here understand perfectly what you are saying in regards to tests not being appropriate, they are questioning your review stating the oysters gave you food poisoning when in fact you can't prove it was the oysters without tests, therefore you can't write reviews blaming something without proof.


You should visit your GP if the symptoms are lasting more than 48hrs, and stool samples and blood tests can be taken if warranted from the outset.

You can't prove it was the oysters full stop. There are no tests you can perform to prove food poisoning. Please don't visit your GP after only 48 hours. It is just wasting their time and yours.

Fosterdog

binary0110 wrote: »

I don't know why this point isn't getting across - you cannot prove the source of food poisoning by taking blood and stool samples. Doctors do not routinely perform blood tests or stool samples for cases of food poisoning. The diagnosis is made on clinical grounds. Blood/stool samples would only be taken for protracted illnesses of over 2 weeks duration. In any event, you shouldn't be attending your GP if you have food poisoning and certainly shouldn't expect them to perform stool and blood tests. In the first instance, this should be managed with self care.

You are right the point isn't getting across to you. I never said anything about proving the source of food poisoning, I just asked who actually diagnosed that it was food poisoning, there are specific tests to diagnose the exact type not just saying general food poisoning.

There are very few types of food poisoning and the only way to know that's what you had is by testing samples. There are however thousands of types of food borne illness and millions of other types of bug that cause very similar symptoms. If you insist on talking about the balance of probabilities being that the oysters caused it you should also accept that on the balance of probabilities you didn't actually have food poisoning but rather had a minor food borne illness or one of the many 24/48hour bug that are doing the rounds all across the country right now.

Just in the last three weeks 8 people have been off work with stomach bugs where I work. My parents and one brother all caught the norovirus doing the rounds, they all had the same symptoms as food poisoning.

So the FACT remains that you do not know that you even had food poisoning you are just assuming you did and you are blaming the oysters when there are thousands of other sources that could have made you ill.

Of course they are not going to publish a review stating that their product causes food poisoning based on what you have said and they could even take it further and accuse you of slander when you insist on making a big deal out of it with no proof whatsoever. You have made quite a serious accusation against them.

tomtontom

Can you tell us exactly what your review said? From what I'm reading you openly admit you can't prove the oysters made you ill, yet you posted a review categorically stating they gave you and your partner food poisoning. Correct?

JReacher1

OP i dread to tell you but they've deleted your review again....

Poppie68

binary0110 wrote: »

You can't prove it was the oysters full stop. There are no tests you can perform to prove food poisoning. Please don't visit your GP after only 48 hours. It is just wasting their time and yours.

Strange that even the NHS website tells you that if vomiting for 2 or more days and/or not being able to keep liquids down for 24 hrs or more than seek medical attention..
And certainly at the surgery I worked at for many years had a policy of asking patients showing signs of food poisoning for 48 hours or more to come in and if the GP or nurse practitioner agreed with the symptoms pointing to food poisoning samples were taken.