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My biggest debt was statute-barred yesterday...

...I feel both elated and guilty...why do I feel like this?

My total debt is now <£3k however :beer:

HBS x
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  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,939 Ambassador
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    ...I feel both elated and guilty...why do I feel like this?

    My total debt is now <£3k however :beer:

    HBS x

    Guilty ? why ?, the statute of limitations is there for a very good reason, they will of had plenty of time to exercise there rights, and failed to do so.

    No guilt needed.............!!!!
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  • rizla_king
    rizla_king Posts: 2,895 Forumite
    Keep hold of documents like bank statements so you can show no payments were made. Debt collectors make them up sometimes even in front of a court so you need to be prepared just in case.
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  • heartbreak_star
    heartbreak_star Posts: 8,287 Forumite
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    Thank you :) I can get up to ten years' statements online, I think, so that should be OK!

    HBS x
    "I believe in ordinary acts of bravery, in the courage that drives one person to stand up for another."

    "It's easy to know what you're against, quite another to know what you're for."

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  • tomtontom
    tomtontom Posts: 7,929 Forumite
    I'd be feeling pretty ashamed, but then I wouldn't dream of not repaying what I owe. Suggesting it is the lender's fault for not chasing money you borrowed and you spent demonstrates a complete lack of personal responsibility.

    Nothing personal hbs, just my view ;)
  • heartbreak_star
    heartbreak_star Posts: 8,287 Forumite
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    It was after a long-running set of disputes, back-and-forth letters, and bodged-together documents that didn't even have my signature on to be quite fair.

    Anywhere that's provided the correct documentation that I requested after I recovered from the various mental and physical health issues that plagued my twenties have been repaid or are in the process of being so.

    Please don't judge circumstances that I hope you never find yourself in, tomtontom. I actually find your opinion very refreshing in many threads, but in this one I find it rather judgmental.

    Thanks for making me want to crawl under a rock, away from the real people who deserve nice things.

    HBS x
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    "It's easy to know what you're against, quite another to know what you're for."

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  • rizla_king
    rizla_king Posts: 2,895 Forumite
    No need to be ashamed at all. Please dont take such comments to heart.
    Still rolling rolling rolling...... :) <
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  • Takeaway_Addict
    Takeaway_Addict Posts: 6,538 Forumite
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    edited 2 March 2015 at 6:02PM
    The debt is still there, it just cannot be enforced. And you don't actually deny owing the money, just that whoever you owe didn't do things properly.
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  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,939 Ambassador
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    tomtontom wrote: »
    I'd be feeling pretty ashamed, but then I wouldn't dream of not repaying what I owe. Suggesting it is the lender's fault for not chasing money you borrowed and you spent demonstrates a complete lack of personal responsibility.

    Nothing personal hbs, just my view ;)

    No, I cant agree, that's just too much of a "one size fits all" sweeping statement.
    Things happen in life, that we have little or no control over, job loss, redundancy, hours get cut, failed relationships.

    Most people don't set out to not repay what they owe, its usually the result of a life changing event.

    I would think 6 years is perfectly adequate to recover whats was owed, and they have failed to do so.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • Muhren
    Muhren Posts: 1,705 Forumite
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    sourcrates wrote: »
    No, I cant agree, that's just too much of a "one size fits all" sweeping statement.
    Things happen in life, that we have little or no control over, job loss, redundancy, hours get cut, failed relationships.

    Most people don't set out to not repay what they owe, its usually the result of a life changing event.

    I would think 6 years is perfectly adequate to recover whats was owed, and they have failed to do so.

    Whilst I agree that one size doesn't fit all, I'm sure that a lot of people have had some sort of experience has led them into debt. Does that mean that they don't have a responsibility to repay their debt?

    As for statute-barred situations, my understanding is that although repayment can not be enforced it does not mean that a debt doesn't have to be repaid.
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  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,939 Ambassador
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    edited 2 March 2015 at 7:19PM
    Muhren wrote: »
    As for statute-barred situations, my understanding is that although repayment can not be enforced it does not mean that a debt doesn't have to be repaid.



    What is the Limitation Act?
    The Limitation Act 1980 sets out the rules on how long a creditor (who you owe money to) has to take certain action against you to recover a debt. The time limits do not apply to all types of recovery action. Also, the time limits are different depending on the type of debt that you have. This fact sheet outlines when you can use the Limitation Act, and includes a sample letter you can use.

    Limitation periods for debts are important, because if the creditor has run out of time, you may not have to pay the debt back.

    What does ‘statute-barred’ mean?

    If a debt is barred under statute, it means that by law (the Limitation Act), the lender has run out of time to use certain types of action to try and make you pay the debt.

    Statute-barred does not mean the debt no longer exists. In some circumstances, the creditor, or a debt collection agency, can still try and get money from you. You can choose to pay if you wish. Even if the debt is statute-barred, it may still be on your credit reference file. This may make it harder for you to get further credit.

    Unsecured credit debts are things like credit cards, store cards, personal loans and catalogues. When using the Limitation Act, these debts are often called ‘simple contract debts’.

    The Limitation Act says that the limitation period for simple contract debts is six years.

    The cause of action (when the limitation period starts running) for simple contract debts, is usually when your agreement says the creditor is able to take court action because you have fallen behind with payments. This is normally after one or two missed payments. Sometimes, a debt will have no set repayment time. For these sorts of debts, working out the cause of action is more difficult. Contact us for advice.

    A simple contract debt will normally be statute-barred if:

    the creditor has not already obtained a county court judgment (CCJ) against you; and
    you or anyone else owing the money (if your debt is in joint names) have not made a payment towards the debt during the last six years; and
    you have not written to the creditor admitting you owe the debt during the last six years.

    Basically the consumer credit act is there for the protection of lender and borrower, the rules are set out for all to see, if either party chooses not to follow these rules, then thats is there problem, the OP has done nothing wrong.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
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