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The School Nurse, the GP, and the Scary Letter.

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  • Jagraf
    Jagraf Posts: 2,462 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    Artytarty wrote: »
    We used to cal it Blazer mail. It could turn into sedimentary rock if you let it build up.

    Hahaha! I know what you mean :D. I have to say I don't want to go through my daughters blazer pockets looking for anything! Or her bag, its disgusting :o
    Never again will the wolf get so close to my door :eek:
  • j.e.j.
    j.e.j. Posts: 9,672 Forumite
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    Jagraf wrote: »
    I would send a letter back to the school stating that an issue has come to light regarding the school and that you should be contacted immediately. ;)

    The school obviously trusts this method of communication so it should work both ways. Surely all childrens bags are therefore checked each day for letters from home?

    Good point. I know my nieces and nephews often mislay letters from school. 5 and 6 year olds are NOT a reliable postal service. Not quite sure why people find this hard to comprehend.

    If the school are really too stingy to post a letter 2nd class to the parents, then I suppose parents could supply their own SAEs.
  • Armchair23
    Armchair23 Posts: 648 Forumite
    My daughter from a fairly early age ( 7ish ) started censoring notes home.
    If she didn't like the look of them I never saw them.

    School trips she didn't fancy, violin lessons (phew), clubs she didn't want to join, VACCINATIONS and medicals. All went missing.

    And that doesn't even include the ones that got so stuck to banana skins or wet swimsuits you had no idea what they could possibly have looked like beforehand.

    Doesn't strike me this was the most efficient way of dealing with an admin issue but not the end of the world either.
  • Jagraf wrote: »
    If you did a time and motion study on the cost of sending that letter through the post, I would guess its more than a whole classful of second class letters, or more likely texts and emails. Or even better letters loaded on the school website.



    The way it works at my school is;

    1. Compose a standard letter.

    2. Log into SchoolComms.

    3. Select the class/year/house/individual child who needs the letter.

    4. Write a covering email in the hope that this means the parents actually open the email.

    5. Click send & log.

    6. Download the list (30 odd pages) of kids per form whose parents haven't given us an email address.

    7. Print the 30 odd pages.

    8. Proceed to email send & log.

    9. Count up the numbers of kids without email.

    10. Print double the quantity of standard letters.

    11. Write individual names and forms on each letter.

    12. Write out individually addressed envelopes.

    13. Put one set of letters into envelopes.

    14. Take both sets of letters to the main office.

    15. Check that the franking machine is topped up enough.

    16. Stand there for 45 minutes whilst the super slow franking machine weighs and franks each envelope.

    17. Bundle up envelopes.

    18. Notify office manager how much you've just spent on snail mail.

    18a. Watch office manager turn white because it means she's not got enough credit (or remaining budget) to top it up again for another important letter to go out today.

    19. Go and put each form's letters in their tutor tray.

    20. Take the post to the nearest letter box on your way home.

    21. Go to the tutor trays the next day to see that half of the letters haven't been handed out.

    21a. Pester the tutors to hand the things out until there are none left in the trays.

    21b. Take individual copies to some of the kids, put it in their hand and tell them it has to go home tonight.

    21c. Pick up abandoned letters from classroom floor and consider how you could commit the perfect crime in conjunction with evonomies of scale.

    21d. Decide there would be too many teenagers to dispose of them without somebody noticing a suspicious mound round the back of the PE block.

    21e. Decide that, as you've emailed, snail mailed and kidmailed copies, at least one should get through.

    22. Await the inevitable onslaught of parents claiming they haven't received pupil post or snail mail. Usually in the form of a snotty email from the address they never bothered to give the school in the first place.

    22b. Follow up with kids, to be told that 'mum never reads emails'.

    23. Deal with angry parents who want to know why we are wasting their time and government money in sending three copies of the same letter.

    24. Debate running away and joining the circus for an easier life.
    I could dream to wide extremes, I could do or die: I could yawn and be withdrawn and watch the world go by.
    colinw wrote: »
    Yup you are officially Rock n Roll :D
  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,374 Forumite
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    Before you go and make a big deal out of nothing, maybe you should care to understand the system better. For one, school nurses are rarely run by the schools, they are usually run by the local NHS community or hospital trust, so in this is the case in your area too, the school would have had nothing to do with it.

    Secondly, they have to notify your child GP if they haven't been able to perform these checks so that the GP can decide whether he has reasons for concerns or not.

    You say it was nothing. Well both my children had eye problems that resulted in surgery for one of them as a result of a condition discovered during that check. No one else had picked up on it. If it hadn't been for surgery, they probably would have ended up with a disability.

    So instead of huffing and puffing, maybe you should be grateful that not only the school nurse cares about your child's health, but their GP too and maybe you should be thankful that they pick up where you've failed as a parent (ie. to make sure that you returned the form).
  • Jagraf
    Jagraf Posts: 2,462 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    The way it works at my school is;

    1. Compose a standard letter.

    2. Log into SchoolComms.

    3. Select the class/year/house/individual child who needs the letter.

    4. Write a covering email in the hope that this means the parents actually open the email.

    5. Click send & log.

    6. Download the list (30 odd pages) of kids per form whose parents haven't given us an email address.

    7. Print the 30 odd pages.

    8. Proceed to email send & log.

    9. Count up the numbers of kids without email.

    10. Print double the quantity of standard letters.

    11. Write individual names and forms on each letter.

    12. Write out individually addressed envelopes.

    13. Put one set of letters into envelopes.

    14. Take both sets of letters to the main office.

    15. Check that the franking machine is topped up enough.

    16. Stand there for 45 minutes whilst the super slow franking machine weighs and franks each envelope.

    17. Bundle up envelopes.

    18. Notify office manager how much you've just spent on snail mail.

    18a. Watch office manager turn white because it means she's not got enough credit (or remaining budget) to top it up again for another important letter to go out today.

    19. Go and put each form's letters in their tutor tray.

    20. Take the post to the nearest letter box on your way home.

    21. Go to the tutor trays the next day to see that half of the letters haven't been handed out.

    21a. Pester the tutors to hand the things out until there are none left in the trays.

    21b. Take individual copies to some of the kids, put it in their hand and tell them it has to go home tonight.

    21c. Pick up abandoned letters from classroom floor and consider how you could commit the perfect crime in conjunction with evonomies of scale.

    21d. Decide there would be too many teenagers to dispose of them without somebody noticing a suspicious mound round the back of the PE block.

    21e. Decide that, as you've emailed, snail mailed and kidmailed copies, at least one should get through.

    22. Await the inevitable onslaught of parents claiming they haven't received pupil post or snail mail. Usually in the form of a snotty email from the address they never bothered to give the school in the first place.

    22b. Follow up with kids, to be told that 'mum never reads emails'.

    23. Deal with angry parents who want to know why we are wasting their time and government money in sending three copies of the same letter.

    24. Debate running away and joining the circus for an easier life.

    I am crying with laughter, thank you :rotfl: I feel a new business enterprise coming on :rotfl:
    Never again will the wolf get so close to my door :eek:
  • j.e.j.
    j.e.j. Posts: 9,672 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    The way it works at my school is;

    1. Compose a standard letter.

    2. Log into SchoolComms.

    3. Select the class/year/house/individual child who needs the letter.

    4. Write a covering email in the hope that this means the parents actually open the email.

    5. Click send & log.

    6. Download the list (30 odd pages) of kids per form whose parents haven't given us an email address.

    7. Print the 30 odd pages.

    8. Proceed to email send & log.

    9. Count up the numbers of kids without email.

    10. Print double the quantity of standard letters.

    11. Write individual names and forms on each letter.

    12. Write out individually addressed envelopes.

    13. Put one set of letters into envelopes.

    14. Take both sets of letters to the main office.

    15. Check that the franking machine is topped up enough.

    16. Stand there for 45 minutes whilst the super slow franking machine weighs and franks each envelope.

    17. Bundle up envelopes.

    18. Notify office manager how much you've just spent on snail mail.

    18a. Watch office manager turn white because it means she's not got enough credit (or remaining budget) to top it up again for another important letter to go out today.

    19. Go and put each form's letters in their tutor tray.

    20. Take the post to the nearest letter box on your way home.

    21. Go to the tutor trays the next day to see that half of the letters haven't been handed out.

    21a. Pester the tutors to hand the things out until there are none left in the trays.

    21b. Take individual copies to some of the kids, put it in their hand and tell them it has to go home tonight.

    21c. Pick up abandoned letters from classroom floor and consider how you could commit the perfect crime in conjunction with evonomies of scale.

    21d. Decide there would be too many teenagers to dispose of them without somebody noticing a suspicious mound round the back of the PE block.

    21e. Decide that, as you've emailed, snail mailed and kidmailed copies, at least one should get through.

    22. Await the inevitable onslaught of parents claiming they haven't received pupil post or snail mail. Usually in the form of a snotty email from the address they never bothered to give the school in the first place.

    22b. Follow up with kids, to be told that 'mum never reads emails'.

    23. Deal with angry parents who want to know why we are wasting their time and government money in sending three copies of the same letter.

    24. Debate running away and joining the circus for an easier life.

    If there's a difficult way of doing something, public sector workers will find it.. :cool:
  • Surfbabe
    Surfbabe Posts: 2,283 Forumite
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    The way it works at my school is;

    1. Compose a standard letter.

    2. Log into SchoolComms.

    3. Select the class/year/house/individual child who needs the letter.

    4. Write a covering email in the hope that this means the parents actually open the email.

    5. Click send & log.

    6. Download the list (30 odd pages) of kids per form whose parents haven't given us an email address.

    7. Print the 30 odd pages.

    8. Proceed to email send & log.

    9. Count up the numbers of kids without email.

    10. Print double the quantity of standard letters.

    11. Write individual names and forms on each letter.

    12. Write out individually addressed envelopes.

    13. Put one set of letters into envelopes.

    14. Take both sets of letters to the main office.

    15. Check that the franking machine is topped up enough.

    16. Stand there for 45 minutes whilst the super slow franking machine weighs and franks each envelope.

    17. Bundle up envelopes.

    18. Notify office manager how much you've just spent on snail mail.

    18a. Watch office manager turn white because it means she's not got enough credit (or remaining budget) to top it up again for another important letter to go out today.

    19. Go and put each form's letters in their tutor tray.

    20. Take the post to the nearest letter box on your way home.

    21. Go to the tutor trays the next day to see that half of the letters haven't been handed out.

    21a. Pester the tutors to hand the things out until there are none left in the trays.

    21b. Take individual copies to some of the kids, put it in their hand and tell them it has to go home tonight.

    21c. Pick up abandoned letters from classroom floor and consider how you could commit the perfect crime in conjunction with evonomies of scale.

    21d. Decide there would be too many teenagers to dispose of them without somebody noticing a suspicious mound round the back of the PE block.

    21e. Decide that, as you've emailed, snail mailed and kidmailed copies, at least one should get through.

    22. Await the inevitable onslaught of parents claiming they haven't received pupil post or snail mail. Usually in the form of a snotty email from the address they never bothered to give the school in the first place.

    22b. Follow up with kids, to be told that 'mum never reads emails'.

    23. Deal with angry parents who want to know why we are wasting their time and government money in sending three copies of the same letter.

    24. Debate running away and joining the circus for an easier life.

    I can so relate to this - multiply it by students in a secondary school and the post bill is enormous !!!. The letters are always on the website, they are emailed and paper copies given if necessary - but lots of parents don't seem to understand that they should keep an eye on the school website for any important stuff.
  • j.e.j.
    j.e.j. Posts: 9,672 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    FBaby wrote: »
    So instead of huffing and puffing, maybe you should be grateful that not only the school nurse cares about your child's health, but their GP too and maybe you should be thankful that they pick up where you've failed as a parent (ie. to make sure that you returned the form).

    Oooh OUCH!
  • FBaby wrote: »
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    Secondly, they have to notify your child GP if they haven't been able to perform these checks so that the GP can decide whether he has reasons for concerns or not.


    So instead of huffing and puffing, maybe you should be grateful that not only the school nurse cares about your child's health, but their GP too and maybe you should be thankful that they pick up where you've failed as a parent (ie. to make sure that you returned the form).


    And the fact the parent did not receive or return a letter means they dont care about their childs heaLTH??? Honestly I read so patronising narrow minded views on here and this is amongst them


    Lettes get lost - even if the letter had been sent back via child no guarantee nschool wouldve recived it

    My sons school uses Parentmail- stuff arrives by text and email- musch less hassle and more eco friendly than endless bits of paper. And Im sure health permission forms etc come in a big wad at start of school year- gots writers cramp signing so many things- including a few i ewfuised to let him do

    And what if the parent had returned the form refusing permisson- whatever happened to personal choice? Thye may have their own optician/dentist/ heathcare professional they prefer you use
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