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Clocked van from auction

I bought a van for work from a well known auction house in late october last year with warranted miles ,i used it for 3 month and when the job finished sold it on ,before selling i HPI checked it also checked the MOT history with VOSA. After 2 weeks the buyer contacted me stating the vehicle has been clocked ,where do i stand with this as i have contacted the auction house who told me in his fifteen year experience it can be very difficult to get your money from the vender.can anyone please help with advice
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  • scotsbob
    scotsbob Posts: 4,632 Forumite
    What facts has the buyer come up with to prove to you that the mileage has been altered?
  • facade
    facade Posts: 7,410 Forumite
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    scoobydoo5 wrote: »
    before selling i HPI checked it also checked the MOT history with VOSA.

    I presume you found no evidence that mileage had been "lost"?

    Unless the service record shows big mileages that were accrued and then "disappeared" before the first MOT or change of owner, which would have been obvious, there would be no evidence.
    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science ;))
  • arcon5
    arcon5 Posts: 14,099 Forumite
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    You buy at auction, you take the risk. Most auction houses have disclaimers about mileage.

    How has the buyer found this info?
  • he traced the service history from first owner which was 100k more than when sold to me
  • waamo
    waamo Posts: 10,298 Forumite
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    I would ask to see his evidence in writing.
  • colino
    colino Posts: 5,059 Forumite
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    Absolute BS. If it was from a proper auction and you had paid the indemnity, you would have cover.
    Buying a horsed banger, wringing its moneysworth out of it and then trying to pass it on is your problem.
  • arcon5
    arcon5 Posts: 14,099 Forumite
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    Indemnity is about covering you if the car turns out to be stolen or has finance attached to it -- not if the description is different.

    Most auction houses (in fact, probably all, never seen one not doing it), have notifications on the mileague when they take the photo:

    'TRADE DESCRIPTIONS ACT
    Mileage must be taken as incorrect unless it is stated otherwise'.

    Unlikely op has any comeback, whereas the guy he sold it to may!
  • marlot
    marlot Posts: 4,958 Forumite
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    scoobydoo5 wrote: »
    I bought a van for work from a well known auction house in late october last year with warranted miles...
    I believe this simply means the vendor (into the auction) has stated the mileage to be correct. If your purchaser has documented proof to say otherwise, then you should be approaching the auction house with a view to returning the van.

    Not sure if there are any time limits.
  • xHannahx
    xHannahx Posts: 614 Forumite
    scoobydoo5 wrote: »
    he traced the service history from first owner which was 100k more than when sold to me

    If it's done 100k more than indicated it would be obvious from signs of wear on the interior. Drivers seat, steering wheel and gear stick would all show significant wear on a vehicle that has done an extra 100k.
    the ECU on modern vehicles can be read to show the actual mileage (will probably be in km on most European built vehicles).
    If you know anyone with a code reader plug it in, and it will tell you the actual mileage, (unless it's had a new ECU).
    I discovered my old vectra had been clocked as the ECU had a stored mileage of 180000km, but the odometer was displaying 69000 miles.
  • harveybobbles
    harveybobbles Posts: 8,973 Forumite
    edited 28 February 2015 at 10:52AM
    xHannahx wrote: »
    If it's done 100k more than indicated it would be obvious from signs of wear on the interior. Drivers seat, steering wheel and gear stick would all show significant wear on a vehicle that has done an extra 100k..

    Not usually..

    My 207,000 mile car has mush less signs of wear than my dads 80,000 mile car. both same age.

    Mine sits on the motorway with just me in it.

    Dads trawls around town in 1st, 2nd, 3rd and occasioanlly 4th gear stopping and starting.


    As for the OP - get the buyer to send you hard evidence of the potential clocking and check yourself.

    Then armed with this, go to [STRIKE]BCA[/STRIKE] the un-named auction house and ask what they would like to do.

    They only go off what their vendor tells them, so they may well chase them up.
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