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If you're EVER going to buy a house, you'd better do it before April - here's why.

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  • chucknorris
    chucknorris Posts: 10,793 Forumite
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    Jason74 wrote: »
    He may well be an idiot (or not, I can't claim to know him well enough to have a view on that one, although mindless name calling of other posters never does anyone any favours imho), but that post does make a very good and important point about UK Government.
    He is an idiot under his current id and previous id's homelessskilledworker and foxy, but I wouldn't have even said anything if he hadn't felt the need to start insulting me for no reason:

    it is the sort of c**p I was certain 24hr c**p dispenser wotsthat or chucknorris would come out with.

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    Chuck Norris can kill two stones with one birdThe only time Chuck Norris was wrong was when he thought he had made a mistakeChuck Norris puts the "laughter" in "manslaughter".I've started running again, after several injuries had forced me to stop
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    it's difficult to see why an unstable government is bad for the UK

    a period of no new laws may very well be an excellent thing

    if the government did absolutely nothing for 6 months what would the bad or good effects be?
  • padington
    padington Posts: 3,121 Forumite
    edited 7 March 2015 at 11:10AM
    Capital will Become very nervous with a Milliband / SNP coalition, it's not if there is a coalition which will cause problems, it's the parties in power that will.

    Milliband already had the energy company's running for the hills the moment he mentioned forcing them to freeze prices. Prime property owners have been shifting 'homes" fast too there will be repercussions if it's a SNP / Labour government.

    However who the heck is going to vote for Ed Milliband to be our leader ? I just can't see anyone actually bothering to walk to the polls to vote for him.
    Proudly voted remain. A global union of countries is the only way to commit global capital to the rule of law.
  • Jason74
    Jason74 Posts: 650 Forumite
    edited 7 March 2015 at 12:04PM
    padington wrote: »
    Capital will Become very nervous with a Milliband / SNP coalition, it's not if there is a coalition which will cause problems, it's the parties in power that will.

    Milliband already had the energy company's running for the hills the moment he mentioned forcing them to freeze prices. Prime property owners have been shifting 'homes" fast too there will be repercussions if it's a SNP / Labour government.

    However who the heck is going to vote for Ed Milliband to be our leader ? I just can't see anyone actually bothering to walk to the polls to vote for him.

    The short answer to that question is "several million people" (at least in terms of voting for the party that he leads). Whether it's enough to form a government is another question of course, and I personally suspect it wont. But that doesn't change the fact that the course he is advocating has the support of more people than you might think.

    Personally, i think the big risk is a result that makes even a two party coalition unworkable. The last few years have shown that a two party coalition holding a decent majority can work in a UK context. I don't believe that a three (or more) party arrangement can. Most people can (within reasin) adapt to a Government they dont't like. Adapting to a prolonged period where you don't know who the government will be in six Months is another matter. . . . . .. . .and the polls suggest that may be exactly where we're heading.
  • chewmylegoff
    chewmylegoff Posts: 11,466 Forumite
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    padington wrote: »

    Errr. You seem to have ignored the point that Monaco is 2 square kilometers with a population of <40,000 whereas London is, depending on how you define it, up to about 8,500 square kilometers with a population of up to 13 million which is growing in size by about 3 monacos a year. Whilst a few small areas already have turned into enclaves for the super rich, we aren't going to see 13 million foreign billionaires taking over places like Norbury, Tottenham and Bow. The super-rich don't tend to seek out areas with 8 chicken shops and 5 dodgy dry cleaners.
  • fordcapri2000
    fordcapri2000 Posts: 116 Forumite
    edited 8 March 2015 at 1:54PM
    wotsthat wrote: »
    If you look at a graph of house prices over time you'd be hard pressed to point out the general election years without prior knowledge of when they happened.

    However, whenever we get to a GE year it's always put forward as a game changer.




    "whenever we get to an election it's a game changer" ...

    LOL,

    there is an election every five years, how the (text removed by MSE Forum Team) do you get the time or even the willpower to do this every single day of your life and going on what you say a "few elections", or could it be that you are just telling fibs again.

    If ever there was a the perfect scenario of someone needing to get a life you must be it.
  • I do agree that the next election is important, but otherwise there is a great deal wrong with your analysis...

    Strong government: Russia has a very strong government at the moment, and a disastrous economy. Germany, OTOH, has a history of weak central government while far more power is devolved to local and regional assemblies, and has an economy that has consistently performed, and delivered for the population as a whole, in a way that we can only dream about.

    I can remember bits of the 1960s and the 1970s, and in lots of ways things were so much better then than they are today. Profits for the super-rich were a good deal lower then than now, but public services were generally effective and on the whole the country really worked in a way that is not the case today in the UK (although it is in Germany and Switzerland).

    The reason for the problems in Greece and Italy? Not just coalition government (before the war Italy had an extremely strong government) but the fact that no-one had the cojones to tackle organised crime and institutional corruption. In the case of Italy the continuing power and political influence of the !!!!! is terrifying, and that factor alone is enough to explain the economic disaster there. In contrast, in the UK in the Victorian period there was a very determined effort to combat corruption, and we are still reaping the benefits.


    Russia has anything but a strong government, who in the world sees Russian anything but a bully boy who is really hung like a hamster, someone like wotsthat in other words.

    Just because Putin goes bare back riding without his shirt(not a million miles from a scene in Brokeback mountain I might add), and strokes a few tigers in his judo suit does not make Russia a strong dependable country.
  • padington
    padington Posts: 3,121 Forumite
    edited 7 March 2015 at 4:04PM
    Errr. You seem to have ignored the point that Monaco is 2 square kilometers with a population of <40,000 whereas London is, depending on how you define it, up to about 8,500 square kilometers with a population of up to 13 million which is growing in size by about 3 monacos a year. Whilst a few small areas already have turned into enclaves for the super rich, we aren't going to see 13 million foreign billionaires taking over places like Norbury, Tottenham and Bow. The super-rich don't tend to seek out areas with 8 chicken shops and 5 dodgy dry cleaners.

    In time all of London will be very very pricey, even Hackney. All super cities with very limited chances of building much more housing will do the same.
    Proudly voted remain. A global union of countries is the only way to commit global capital to the rule of law.
  • padington
    padington Posts: 3,121 Forumite
    edited 7 March 2015 at 4:13PM
    Jason74 wrote: »
    The short answer to that question is "several million people" (at least in terms of voting for the party that he leads). Whether it's enough to form a government is another question of course, and I personally suspect it wont. But that doesn't change the fact that the course he is advocating has the support of more people than you might think.

    Personally, i think the big risk is a result that makes even a two party coalition unworkable. The last few years have shown that a two party coalition holding a decent majority can work in a UK context. I don't believe that a three (or more) party arrangement can. Most people can (within reasin) adapt to a Government they dont't like. Adapting to a prolonged period where you don't know who the government will be in six Months is another matter. . . . . .. . .and the polls suggest that may be exactly where we're heading.

    The moment it becomes really necessary a grand coalition will be formed, just watch.

    Lots of talk about how it's not going to happen will be a sure fire sign it's just around the corner.
    Proudly voted remain. A global union of countries is the only way to commit global capital to the rule of law.
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    "whenever we get to an election it's a game changer" ...

    LOL,

    there is an election every five years, how the f*** do you get the time or even the willpower to do this every single day of your life and going on what you say a "few elections", or could it be that you are just telling fibs again.

    If ever there was a the perfect scenario of someone needing to get a life you must be it.

    Unsurprisingly, you miss the point. If you look at a graph of house prices over time you'll notice the effect of a general election is zero. There are differences between the main parties on housing policy but they amount to different positioning of deckchairs.
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