flights to Brazil

ghazghaz

I have been looking at booking flights to Rio in November 2015. Because of my back and knee I want to fly business


BA charge is £2,438 return from Heathrow


TAP via Lisbon looks the cheapest. I then entered into Skyscanner Lisbon to Rio. The cheapest response was with BA via Heathrow. It was a total of 2,079 euro. This converts to £1,574.


Amazing, but confused


Do you think there would be any problem if I booked this but I did not use the Lisbon-London London-Lisbon leg


Its £1,000 cheaper. Typical example of british consumers being ripped off

bagand96

Do you think there would be any problem if I booked this but I did not use the Lisbon-London London-Lisbon leg

Yes. When you don't turn up for your LIS-LHR flight, the rest of your itinerary will be cancelled.

Its not a rip off per se, its that Lisbon-Rio is a different market to London-Rio for BA. They want to try and attract business away from the many other options so will charge less.

Lisbon-Rio direct will be far more expensive for Portugese travellers than flying via London with BA. Same as London-Rio is far more expensive for us direct than flying indirectly with a foreign carrier. Seems mad, its the way airline pricing works. Airlines are often far more competitive outside of their home market.

callum9999

It's not mad at all (I know you didn't say it was!). People generally prefer to fly direct instead of having connections - ergo indirect flights are generally cheaper than direct ones. Particularly on routes with little competition like London - Rio.

I can't help any further without actual dates, but returns from Amsterdam to Rio start from £1350. You can fly from London to Amsterdam very cheaply on a separate ticket.

Though I'm absolutely sick to death of people whinging about "rip of Britain". It shows a rather large level of ignorance of the wider world and basic economics - hopefully your travels will open your eyes a little bit!

ghazghaz

callum9999 wrote: »

It's not mad at all (I know you didn't say it was!). People generally prefer to fly direct instead of having connections - ergo indirect flights are generally cheaper than direct ones. Particularly on routes with little competition like London - Rio.

I can't help any further without actual dates, but returns from Amsterdam to Rio start from £1350. You can fly from London to Amsterdam very cheaply on a separate ticket.

Though I'm absolutely sick to death of people whinging about "rip of Britain". It shows a rather large level of ignorance of the wider world and basic economics - hopefully your travels will open your eyes a little bit!

Thanks but i am 53 years old and travelled extensively, so not ignorant

callum9999

ghazghaz wrote: »

Thanks but i am 53 years old and travelled extensively, so not ignorant

I'm afraid I have to disagree - you incorrectly attributed a bog-standard (and completely sensible and logical) worldwide airline practise as "a typical example of British consumers being ripped off". It's not.

You also wouldn't act like Britain is unique or at all special in that regard if you'd truly travelled extensively - that is actually seeing how the locals live, not isolated in a tourist bubble.

SW17

The difference in price is primarily the different market pricing as described above (only BA flies direct to Rio from London currently, to my knowledge) but also partly the fact that with the flight originating outside the UK, BA does not have to charge you the UK govt APD. This probably accounts for approx £100 of the price difference in this case.

As bagand96 correctly points out, you could not miss the first LIS-LHR sector without losing all your flights (there is a recent thread about someone who learnt that the hard way on a flight from Colombia to London). However, you could in theory miss the final LHR-LIS sector, but it is only guaranteed if you were travelling with hand luggage. This is because airlines are much more reluctant to "short check" baggage these days, partly to prevent people taking advantage of different market pricing in this way.

Having flown to Brazil several times in business class, I would say that the BA direct fare you found is pretty competitive for that route (relative to what is normally available, "value" is your decision). You can of course get a better price by routing indirectly, as mentioned above.

Voyager2002

callum9999 wrote: »

You also wouldn't act like Britain is unique or at all special in that regard if you'd truly travelled extensively - that is actually seeing how the locals live, not isolated in a tourist bubble.

Ouch!

Painful, but justified.

Voyager2002

callum9999 wrote: »

You also wouldn't act like Britain is unique or at all special in that regard if you'd truly travelled extensively - that is actually seeing how the locals live, not isolated in a tourist bubble.

Rice actually costs more in China than in England. When you remember where it is grown, and how much (or little) the typical Chinese consumer earns, England seems very privileged by comparison.

callum9999

I don't know if I was being over the top, but I really hate attitudes like that!

Like many others, they are based on ignorant assumptions and are just an excuse to moan about something. Not everything in the UK is more expensive than everywhere else, and there are very good reasons why some stuff is more expensive here than elsewhere.

Murphy_The_Cat

callum9999 wrote: »

Like many others, they are based on ignorant assumptions and are just an excuse to moan about something. Not everything in the UK is more expensive than everywhere else, and there are very good reasons why some stuff is more expensive here than elsewhere.

Rice not being one of them :beer:

littlereddevil

It's £2327 in November in their "sale"