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Injured from slipping on airplane's ramp

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  • sidefx
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    mgdavid wrote: »
    For goodness' sake get a grip! If the above statements are really true then it sounds as if you could be Sectioned for mental incapacity.

    Don't waste your energy.

    Some people want their a$se wiped too.

    Probably a wind up post so not worth bothering about
  • 814man
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    Everything that's wrong with so many people in this country, the compensation culture, not accepting blame or responsibility for anything, and assuming that you can claim money for accidents that were your own fault, all in one post.
  • callum9999
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    edited 24 February 2015 at 12:20AM
    agrinnall wrote: »
    I'm inclined to agree with dickydonkin that a lot of the responses are somewhat harsh. A disembarking passenger is pretty reliant on what the cabin crew tell them about external conditions, and certainly on my last flight we were warned of slippery conditions on the steps before we were allowed to leave.

    Seriously!? You are reliant on someone informing you that a surface is wet while it's raining? Have you never seen rain before?

    (Sorry, I know I'm being flippant! That's just the only scenario I can think of where an able-bodied person would need to be given such information)
  • Same thing happened to me a few years ago. It was wet, the rail being a rail was slippy due to the rain. I managed to slip and stumble down a few steps.
    Would a warning that a slippy thing was slippy have stopped me from slipping? Probably not.
    These things happen and yeah it sucks at the time but you'll soon forget about it and probably be extra careful when walking on slippy stuff from now on. You may even now be able to make your own judgements :).
    I hope your elbow heals quickly x
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  • dickydonkin
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    edited 24 February 2015 at 1:00AM
    swingaloo wrote: »
    Surely if its raining then the likelihood that somewhere you walk will be wet and slippery is a forgone conclusion.

    Personal responsibility has to come into play otherwise you would have a situation whereby everyone had to wait for it to stop raining and all surfaces dried off before passengers disembark. Then everyone would be going on about health and safety gone mad.

    I totally agree - and you are also absolutely right in respect of personal responsibility. However, you are assuming that everyone is able bodied and has a degree of hazard perception. Age, physical and mental disorders, poor eyesight and other factors can compromise what constitutes danger.

    The owners of the ramp must (should) have assessed the risk of wet floors.

    Ideally, preventing the floors from getting wet in the first instance would be the ideal scenario - but if this hazard could not be eliminated, then the reality is that some controls should be put in place to reduce the risk. That's the way it is I'm afraid.

    My comments are based on how EU directives and existing UK H&S legislation works - don't shoot the messenger.
    chancesare wrote: »
    IMHO disembarking 400 times might lead to opinion that one should be more expectant of ill conditions than those who have only done it a few times.

    True - but the same argument could be applied to driving in fog or icy conditions - many experienced/professional drivers are aware of the conditions, but those very conditions will increase the likelihood of having an accident - irrespective of how long they have spent behind the wheel.
    Really? I'm pretty reliant on looking out of windows, using my eyes and other senses to understand what the conditions are like when coming off a plane (and I've come off nowhere near 400 so surely the OP would have learned a thing or two in their time?).

    There's no cash in taking responsibility for yourself. It sounds like the OP compounded the situation by carrying another person - although I guess the cabin crew didn't advise them not to carry children that is probably their fault too :D

    You are then fortunate that you have your eyesight and 'other senses' to enable you to assess the risk - many passengers may not be so fortunate.

    Was the OP 'carrying' her7 year old child? I believe she stated she 'had hold of it'. But wouldn't the majority of people disembarking an aircraft also be carrying luggage?

    As I alluded to earlier, I am attempting (with great difficulty) to explain how H&S legislation would apply to this situation. Many on here who obviously have no concept of H&S and how relevant legislation is applied in the UK have given the OP an unwarranted hard time - she has suffered an injury through no fault of her own.

    I am not even going to elaborate on bagand96 post - if that scenario is based on perception or experience, then the former is just silly and the latter would require a new Safety Advisor.

    Maybe I have an interest in this topic as well. My mother who was 80 years old slipped and fell in a public toilet where the floor was contaminated with water. It was visible, but she needed to access the toilet.

    Unfortunately she slipped on the wet floor and suffered severe bruising. Within 24 hours she suffered a massive stroke and was basically in a vegetative state for 7 weeks before she died.

    Her doctor informed me that the fall was the likely instigator of the stroke.

    I suspect those who are blaming the OP or making puerile comments may have a different perspective if it was a member of their family in the same situation.

    As an aside, why is it that as soon as a poster mentions the 'C' word, they always suffer a torrent of abuse? I agree that the compensation culture has become out of hand, but if someone has suffered through no fault of their own, then they are well within their rights to seek financial redress.
  • mgdavid
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    ....... if someone has suffered through no fault of their own, then they are well within their rights to seek financial redress.

    But this case *was* the OP's fault, they failed to engage brain and act accordingly.
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  • Cyberman60 wrote: »
    I slipped in my health club on steps and badly damaged my back which gave me years of trouble, but never considered going after compensation. You will recover pretty quickly so I don't see why compensation is necessary.

    To teach the airline to provide proper health and safety procedures are put in place. It doesn't take a lot for the cabin crew to add to 'goodbye', 'be careful because it's been raining and the walkway may be slippery'. More fool you to suffer for years and not get compensation to pay for private medical treatment to cure you faster.
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  • Voltaire7 wrote: »
    Lucky for your daughter the passenger behind you was experienced at walking at night and in the rain.

    Pray tell us all why when in broad daylight the floor cleaners in airports etc always have to put up a warning sign advising people the area is wet and slippery.
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  • Pray tell us all why when in broad daylight the floor cleaners in airports etc always have to put up a warning sign advising people the area is wet and slippery.


    Because inside airports and other places inside don't normally have that natural occurrence called rain so people will not take much notice or prepare for a slippery wet floor.


    that's why you have signs inside.


    and here endeth a common sense lesson.
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  • photome
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    - she has suffered an injury through no fault of her own.

    .

    How is it not her fault

    I accept that the ramp should be maintained etc but the OP said she slipped because it was wet not because it was broken or had something on it to trip over...it was wet.

    It was raining, no amount of precaution is going to stop it being wet.

    OP why will you have medical costs, the NHS will pay.

    On another note why didnt you have insurance
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