How is National Rail + Tube fare calculated?

remorseless

How is National Rail + Tube fare calculated?
For example if I start my journey with National Rail in Zone X and then arrive in Zone 1 and then catch the tube at that station and continue in the same Zone?

i.e.; Clapham Junction to London Victoria on National Rail, then London Victoria to Euston on the tube.

I can use a site to calculate the total... but how it's the total calculated?

Thanks!

Shelldean

Am not sure how they calculate it but it is only calculated as one fare if you touch in again within a certain time.

For example my son travelled from here to Victoria then tube to embankment. As he had a student card that didn't usually need a balance on it, I checked the single fare finder and put exact amount on his card. Yet he ended up in negative balance.

When I called.tfl it was because he didn't go straight from the train to the tube on outward journey (the group was delayed by revenue inspectors as his stupid mates tried to get away with traveling on child tickets rather than students) it classed it as two trips and charged accordingly. Not sure what the time limit is though.

The_Groat_Counter

All the fares are set out in a series of tables (available as PDF documents) - for National Rail fares, see this page:
www.tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments/fares/national-rail

Scroll down and click on Adult, 18+ Student, 11-15 etc to bring up the appropriate table.

For journeys that include both National Rail and Tube, the fare you'll be charged is called a "through fare" and is included in those tables (in the PDFs the first set of fares is the "National Rail only" fare, the second set is the "through fare" - scroll down to see them).

To take advantage of a through fare, you need to continue your journey within a certain amount of time. This is called making an Out of Station Interchange - more information here:
www.oyster-rail.org.uk/interchanging-trains/

The time limits for making an Out of Station Interchange are set out here:
www.oyster-rail.org.uk/osi-list/

For Victoria NR (National Rail) to Victoria LU (London Underground), the limit is 20 minutes.

I think your son's stupid mates should pay him the difference!

remorseless

The_Groat_Counter wrote: »

All the fares are set out in a series of tables - for National Rail fares, see this page:
www.tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments/fares/national-rail

Scroll down and click on Adult, 18+ Student, 11-15 etc to bring up the appropriate table.

For journeys that include both National Rail and Tube, the fare you'll be charged is called a "through fare" and is included in those tables.

BINGO! Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!

yorkie2

remorseless wrote: »

How is National Rail + Tube fare calculated?
For example if I start my journey with National Rail in Zone X and then arrive in Zone 1 and then catch the tube at that station and continue in the same Zone?

i.e.; Clapham Junction to London Victoria on National Rail, then London Victoria to Euston on the tube.

I can use a site to calculate the total... but how it's the total calculated?

Thanks!

You are charged a premium if you use a 'red' National Rail route (south of the Thames, that's nearly all National Rail routes except routes served by London Overground) and London Underground including Zone 1.

For Clapham Jn to Victoria, the default fare is £2.90 (0630-0930) or £2.30 at all other times which is charged if you do not touch on any intermediate gatelines, ie changing at West Brompton.

However the dreaded premium applies if you use the route described, changing at Victoria, charging you an extra £1.30.

http://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payments/fares/single-fare-finder?From=Clapham+Junction+Rail+Station&FromId=910GCLPHMJC&To=Euston+Underground+Station&ToId=940GZZLUEUS&PassengerType=Adult

David147

The answer is simply this. Newcastle Airport station is served by the Tyne and Wear Metro which is not covered by the National Rail ticketing system. Your friend will have to buy a ticket there for the short trip into central Newcastle. Further, he will have to buy another ticket to travel from the Newcastle Central Metro station, via the main station to the Metro* Centre until he meets you and you can hand him the ticket you have brought for the remainder of your journey.

dzug1

David147 wrote: »

The answer is simply this. Newcastle Airport station is served by the Tyne and Wear Metro which is not covered by the National Rail ticketing system. Your friend will have to buy a ticket there for the short trip into central Newcastle. Further, he will have to buy another ticket to travel from the Newcastle Central Metro station, via the main station to the Metro* Centre until he meets you and you can hand him the ticket you have brought for the remainder of your journey.

What's this got to do with the London tube??

armyknife

dzug1 wrote: »

What's this got to do with the London tube??

I think he/it may be a sophisicated AI spambot, several of his few posts read like the above, not really really related to the topic, but others are like posts from a regular poster.

benjus

armyknife wrote: »

I think he/it may be a sophisicated AI spambot, several of his few posts read like the above, not really really related to the topic, but others are like posts from a regular poster.

That's David147 on the left: