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Sister may be being made redundant as the office of the small business she works in may be closing.

The nearest office is a 3 hour round trip away.

If she refuses an alternative post at this office, will she still be entitled to redundancy pay?

She's in 2 minds as to whether to hold out for redundancy pay, or just look for another job now. This is one of the factors she needs to know for her decision. Thanks.
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  • asajj
    asajj Posts: 5,125 Forumite
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    http://www.burnetts.co.uk/publications/factsheets/when-is-suitable-alternative-employment-not-actually-suitable

    Well to me 3 hours round trip neither reasonable nor unreasonable. Some companies would accept the less as reasonable.

    She can get a trial period of 4 weeks and have a go.
    ally.
  • lulu650
    lulu650 Posts: 1,158 Forumite
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    Actually I would consider an extra 3 hour round trip per day as not a suitable job offer. But she would need to state the reasons why.

    Are there any childcare issues that would prove a problem with this extra time away from home? How much petrol and associated wear and tear of the car would that incur? Or how much public transport costs involved?
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  • lulu650 wrote: »
    Actually I would consider an extra 3 hour round trip per day as not a suitable job offer. But she would need to state the reasons why.

    Are there any childcare issues that would prove a problem with this extra time away from home? How much petrol and associated wear and tear of the car would that incur? Or how much public transport costs involved?
    The OP didn't say it was an extra 3 hours and the employer could argue it is reasonable, I believe the job centre allow up to 90 minutes each way so this could be argued as reasonable.
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  • lulu650
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    Yes, I read the OP post's too quickly. It's not clear how much extra travelling time is involved.
    My advice is based on negotiation rather than something concrete to take to an ET.
    Unions tend to use the following advice; Work would normally be regarded as unsuitable if it meant changes in:
    • pay
    • travelling time
    • skill requirements
    • status
    Certainly the 4 weeks trial period is worth considering
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  • The ninety minute rule is for commuting by public transport per dieum. That is 45 minutes there and 45 minutes back. Going by car may be quicker.

    Three hours is outside this. Time for the union!
  • The ninety minute rule is for commuting by public transport per dieum. That is 45 minutes there and 45 minutes back. Going by car may be quicker.

    Three hours is outside this. Time for the union!
    Unless it has changed since 2013 its 90 minutes each way

    Work search requirement and work availability requirement: limitations

    14.—(1) Paragraphs (2) to (5) set out the limitations on a work search requirement and a work availability requirement.

    (2) A work search requirement and a work availability requirement must be limited to work that is in a location which would normally take the claimant—

    (a)a maximum of one hour and 30 minutes to travel from home to the location; and

    (b)a maximum of one hour and 30 minutes to travel from the location to home.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2013/9780111531921
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  • lulu650 wrote: »
    Yes, I read the OP post's too quickly. It's not clear how much extra travelling time is involved.
    My advice is based on negotiation rather than something concrete to take to an ET.
    Unions tend to use the following advice; Work would normally be regarded as unsuitable if it meant changes in:
    • pay
    • travelling time
    • skill requirements
    • status
    Certainly the 4 weeks trial period is worth considering
    I agree negotiation is the best way and I personally think the employer is pushing it but depending on how much their redundancy liability is they may decide to argue the toss so its best to be prepared.

    Your examples of change are to broad,a 5% paycut would unlikely be deemed unreasonable, an extra 10 minutes each way would unlikely be deemed unreasonable...and so on.
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  • Andy_L
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    Does her contract contain a mobility obligation?
  • bylromarha
    bylromarha Posts: 10,085 Forumite
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    She currently walks 30 minutes each way. She stays on site the entire day.

    She isn't willing to do a 3 hour commute in the car with the additional money and time this involves. She'd rather find another job.
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  • zzzLazyDaisy
    zzzLazyDaisy Posts: 12,497 Forumite
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    When did she start working for her current employer?
    I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.
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