End of tenancy check out report.

fishpond

Do you know if the tenant is entitled to see the end of tenancy checkout report that will be paid for by me? (I haven't got a forwarding address anyway)?

G_M

If you are not charging for any damage/losses etc then no.

If you want to charge for damage, you need to show evidence to support your claim, and the check-out report is an obvious source of evidence.....

Guest101

fishpond wrote: »

Do you know if the tenant is entitled to see the end of tenancy checkout report that will be paid for by me? (I haven't got a forwarding address anyway)?

Are the tenants getting their deposit back in full? If yes then no need to share. If you want to make deductions the check out report would obviously need to be compared to the inventory

fishpond

Further question then,
Does the tenant get to keep a copy of the check in inventory.

Guest101

fishpond wrote: »

Further question then,
Does the tenant get to keep a copy of the check in inventory.

What do you mean? Should they have a copy? Yes
Do you have to give them a copy? Probably

If this is going to ADR then you'll need to supply these anyway, why not just supply them now. If your damages are legitimate this may save time.

When people have something to hide, there's sometimes a reason for this, and it starts to look bad.

Guest101

Well if they never got one, then it cant be dual signed, in which case its completely invalid and you will be returning there full deposit.

Either way you'll be providing it to the ADR, so i really dont see what difference it makes.

Again it's just an indication of what kind of landlord (and person) you are, when you refer to people by 'scummy'.

I sincerely hope that you start to learn about being a good landlord, one day you'll get a professional tenant and they'll take you to the cleaners if not.

jjlandlord

The world is so simple when everything is black or white.

While there is no obligation to share the check in inventory and schedule of condition with the tenant, if the tenant does not agree to the contents then these documents are certainly weakened (how much depends on the specific case, IMHO).

The point of these documents is that they can be relied on when claiming compensation for damage or missing items, therefore I can't see why a landlord would not want to ensure that they are as solid as possible.

fishpond

The question is now :-
I have a signed by the tenant and myself a dated check in inventory(mine).
Does the tenant get to have one of these (legally)at the commencement of the tenancy so that they can compare out against in.
Can't find it written down in law anywhere.
Note:- if you are thinking of making rude comments, don't.:)

Annie1960

http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/private_renting/renting_privately/making_an_inventory

Shelter advice is for tenant to keep a copy.

What reason do you have for appearing to wish to prevent the tenant having a copy?

pyueck

fishpond wrote: »

The question is now :-
I have a signed by the tenant and myself a dated check in inventory(mine).
Does the tenant get to have one of these (legally)at the commencement of the tenancy so that they can compare out against in.
Can't find it written down in law anywhere.
Note:- if you are thinking of making rude comments, don't.:)

Fishpond, no you do not. Let's think what an inventory is and why one would have one. It is a document that a landlord produces to try to use as proof at the end of the tenancy of a change of condition in the property or item or prove the removal/addition of an item.

Therefore an inventory is only ever any good if you can either a) convince a tenant to accept a deposit deduction without going to dispute, b) provide a copy to the deposit dispute resolution as evidence of a claim or c) provide a copy to the court as evidence of a claim.

In b and c due to disclosure of evidence rules you would need to provide the tenant with evidence. In a then no you do not need to provide the tenant with a copy of the inventory to prove your claim, however your chances of convincing the tenant are surely lower.

If your intention is to claim a deduction from the tenant for a deduction that is not proved by the inventory, and then claim that the inventory includes something it doesn't this is fraud.

Remember the deposit is the tenants money unless you have a valid legal claim to it or the tenant agrees to a deduction. It is as much fraud as if I sent you a claim for tripping over your doorstep when I didn't.

fishpond

Annie1960 wrote: »

http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/private_renting/renting_privately/making_an_inventory

Shelter advice is for tenant to keep a copy.

What reason do you have for appearing to wish to prevent the tenant having a copy?

None.
Where have I indicated that I do not wish the tenant to have a copy?