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Joined a gym - tips needed!

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  • asajj
    asajj Posts: 5,125 Forumite
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    If you feel tired and hungry after workout, I found that eating a small banana right away helps with this problem. It will stop excessive cravings.

    Oatcakes are great snacks as well. Almonds are also good but be careful not to eat more than 10-11 of them. This will give you around 150-160 calories.
    ally.
  • ds1980
    ds1980 Posts: 1,213 Forumite
    Interested to know where the evidence is for resistance training being better for weight loss than aerobic training??

    That's quite simply and scientifically untrue.

    First advice is to not believe everything you hear and read. Trying to work out whose right and wrong can be difficult. That said there isn't really any right and wrong as long as it works for you.

    Remember you'll never see a fat endurance athlete (triathlon, marathon, x country skier etc) ;-)
  • UKTigerlily
    UKTigerlily Posts: 4,702 Forumite
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    edited 29 April 2015 at 10:35PM
    This is a basic explanation. Plus I know myself i've lost 3st 13 since end of Dec and don't do cardio just weight related things, whether machines, free weights or body weight. Every session I see people in the gym who haven't lost weight at all in six years+ of coming and doing nothing but endless cardio so for me, I believe both have their place and it's fine if someone loves cardio but weight lifting is great for weight loss and looking better, or definitely in my case anyhow

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/fat_loss_training_wars.htm
  • UKTigerlily
    UKTigerlily Posts: 4,702 Forumite
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    ds1980 wrote: »
    Interested to know where the evidence is for resistance training being better for weight loss than aerobic training??

    That's quite simply and scientifically untrue.

    First advice is to not believe everything you hear and read.

    If I believed everything i'd believe cardio is best, and that weights are best, and that fat burners are a good idea, I don't believe everything and never will. I go on what a professional sports coach says, what I myself experience and see.

    Trying to work out whose right and wrong can be difficult. That said there isn't really any right and wrong as long as it works for you.

    Remember you'll never see a fat endurance athlete (triathlon, marathon, x country skier etc) ;-)
    You won't really see a fat ANY athlete, generally they don't have much weight loss to be doing in the first place so it's not like they lost tons of weight doing what they do. For fitness of course cardio is best but i'm on about weight loss
  • ds1980
    ds1980 Posts: 1,213 Forumite
    Me too, you've misunderstood and are misinformed but that is probably not your fault. If I were you I'd sack your "professional" sports coach or ask if he has any qualifications firstly.

    I don't read internet blogs or articles unless they reference. I could write anything I wanted and you can design a study to show you anything you want but I wouldn't get published if that was the case. A hint for people is to read stuff that can be backed up from study.

    I'd advise typing some of your key words into google scholar and have a look at the studies of RT & AT for weight loss comparison.

    I can't remember the author but i remember a study with sedentary people (control) and people doing resistance training showed no difference in weight loss total or composition of weight loss (ie fat and muscle).

    Your point for CV for fitness isn't true either. Fitness is gained by working at higher intensities. This can be achieved in high intensity weight training sessions as well as a high intensity AT session. That's why we have a lot of "fit" but "fat" people as they work at too high an intensity for optimum weight loss. The feeling of sweating must mean you're losing weight is a common gym myth. If you do enough of anything it'll have an affect but for the OP for optimum weight loss, stop eating and become an endurance athlete and do some body weight exercises everyday ;-)
  • UKTigerlily
    UKTigerlily Posts: 4,702 Forumite
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    ds1980 wrote: »
    Me too, you've misunderstood and are misinformed but that is probably not your fault. If I were you I'd sack your "professional" sports coach or ask if he has any qualifications firstly.

    I don't read internet blogs or articles unless they reference. I could write anything I wanted and you can design a study to show you anything you want but I wouldn't get published if that was the case. A hint for people is to read stuff that can be backed up from study.

    I'd advise typing some of your key words into google scholar and have a look at the studies of RT & AT for weight loss comparison.

    I can't remember the author but i remember a study with sedentary people (control) and people doing resistance training showed no difference in weight loss total or composition of weight loss (ie fat and muscle).

    Your point for CV for fitness isn't true either. Fitness is gained by working at higher intensities. This can be achieved in high intensity weight training sessions as well as a high intensity AT session. That's why we have a lot of "fit" but "fat" people as they work at too high an intensity for optimum weight loss. The feeling of sweating must mean you're losing weight is a common gym myth. If you do enough of anything it'll have an affect but for the OP for optimum weight loss, stop eating and become an endurance athlete and do some body weight exercises everyday ;-)

    He does know his stuff thanks and has plenty of qualifications. Never heard that sweating must mean you're losing weight anyway. The link was purely to explain what I meant, it wasn't intended to be any study. What happened with me then seeing as i'm losing weight really well and don't do cardio. I don't care about your opinions or what any studies say, it was advice to the OP from MY experience and what someone who I KNOW knows their thing says. Guess my gym must be full of freaks seeing as the cardio people mostly look the same as they always have and do no weights at all and people like me lose well and do barely any cardio. And yes HIIT is great but i've given my opinion and experience to the OP, I know myself there is NO need for that much cardio for weight loss and so i'm done here.

    And while my weight loss is fast for now, tho slowing, i'm happy to be doing it without cardio and looking way better than if I didn't touch weights.
  • stephen77
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    ds1980 wrote: »
    Interested to know where the evidence is for resistance training being better for weight loss than aerobic training??

    That's quite simply and scientifically untrue.

    First advice is to not believe everything you hear and read. Trying to work out whose right and wrong can be difficult. That said there isn't really any right and wrong as long as it works for you.

    Remember you'll never see a fat endurance athlete (triathlon, marathon, x country skier etc) ;-)

    I have never seen a fat bodybuilder either.
    Apart from the super heavy weights, power lifters, Olympic lifters are pretty lean as well especially in the lighter weight class.
  • stephen77
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    ds1980 wrote: »
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    I can't remember the author but i remember a study with sedentary people (control) and people doing resistance training showed no difference in weight loss total or composition of weight loss (ie fat and muscle).

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    Then they were on the wrong resistance training program.
  • purpleshoes_2
    purpleshoes_2 Posts: 2,653 Forumite
    I read a study the other day that said that resistance training burns more calories than your average cardiovascular class. Not talking about hiit, but stuff like aerobics.

    I do resistance training, hiit, I also do triathlon but not regularly, have done 3 to date.

    I think it's also important to remember people's preferences. I'm fit but I'm not a good runner. I can run a mile in ten minutes but that's still way behind a lot of other people I've done triathlon with.

    If someone told me to go out running to lose weight I'd give up within a week. It's just not for me.
  • stephen77
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    I read a study the other day that said that resistance training burns more calories than your average cardiovascular class. Not talking about hiit, but stuff like aerobics.

    .

    It will vary.
    With resistance training, the more you do it. Diet allowing you will get more lean body mass, which in turn will burn more kcals at rest.
    So on your 1st few session, your not be upping your kcal requirement that much. In a few years time it will be a lot higher.

    While cardio training burns kcal at the time. But a hour after you have finished it will be back to normal burning levels.
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