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Do we need permission to brick up an external doorway?

First_Time_Saver
First_Time_Saver Posts: 16 Forumite
edited 15 February 2015 at 9:00PM in House buying, renting & selling
Can anyone tell me if the following Restrictive Covenant placed on a house means permission will need to be requested to brick up an external door way? - thanks.


'Not to make or suffer to be made any alteration or addition affecting the elevation external structure or stability of any building on the Property nor to erect or set up or permit to be erected or set up upon any part of the Property any new building or structure without the previous consent in writing of the Transferor.'
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  • I'd take that as meaning you cant personally. In fact I would be worrying as to whether it would be possible to even do the standard "swop windows for doubleglazed ones" that most of us do and hence worth checking carefully exactly what that wording covers.

    You will now likely get a number of people asking you if the beneficiary of that covenant is likely to still be around to stop you doing so.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    Seems straightforward to me:

    'Not to make [STRIKE]or suffer to be made [/STRIKE] any alteration [STRIKE]or addition[/STRIKE] affecting the[STRIKE] elevation[/STRIKE] external structure [STRIKE]or stability[/STRIKE] of any building on the Property [STRIKE]nor to erect or set up or permit to be erected or set up upon any part of the Property any new building or structure without the previous consent in writing of the Transferor.'[/STRIKE]
    :(.............................
  • jjlandlord
    jjlandlord Posts: 5,099 Forumite
    edited 15 February 2015 at 9:47PM
    I'm not expert but I would say that what you propose to do would not alter the elevation structure, or stability, and would not be a new building or structure: I.e., it would not breach that covenant.

    I'm thinking that closing a door way would not affect the structure, while creating one would.

    You probably should consult someone who knows exactly what "affecting the elevation external structure" usually means.
    Perhaps someone on here knows.
  • you might also want to have a chat with the local building control people. It is reportable to our local BC. Something to do with existing out of rooms etc.

    Pete
  • kinger101
    kinger101 Posts: 6,559 Forumite
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    jjlandlord wrote: »
    I'm not expert but I would say that what you propose to do would not alter the elevation structure, or stability, and would not be a new building or structure: I.e., it would not breach that covenant.

    I'm thinking that closing a door way would not affect the structure, while creating one would.

    You probably should consult someone who knows exactly what "affecting the elevation external structure" usually means.
    Perhaps someone on here knows.

    It is pretty poorly worded. Years of law school and they haven't worked out what a comma is. It should have read "the elevation, external structure or stability...."

    The elevation is the external facade of the property. So bricking up a doorway would breach this covenant.
    "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius
  • davidmcn
    davidmcn Posts: 23,596 Forumite
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    kinger101 wrote: »
    The elevation is the external facade of the property. So bricking up a doorway would breach this covenant.

    Yes, I would agree with that.
  • Mallotum_X
    Mallotum_X Posts: 2,591 Forumite
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    Who is the covenant in favour of. When is it dated.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    kinger101 wrote: »
    It is pretty poorly worded. Years of law school and they haven't worked out what a comma is. It should have read "the elevation, external structure or stability...."
    http://www.wills.org.uk/punctuation-in-wills/
  • kinger101
    kinger101 Posts: 6,559 Forumite
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    G_M wrote: »

    Next you'll be telling me there's a good reason for doctors' handwriting being little more than a childish scrawl.
    "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius
  • dimbo61
    dimbo61 Posts: 13,727 Forumite
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    They normally put doors into buildings for a reason.
    External doors as a means of escape in the event of a fire
    Speak to your local planning department
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