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Is my landlord allowed to do this?

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  • BobQ wrote: »
    Can we be clear. Your tenancy ran from Date A to Date B. Does the EDF bill relate to the same period or is it from Date B to Date C after you left the home?

    Yes the EDF Bill relates to the same period I was there. But this is only because these are the dates the landlord provided to them along with my forwarding address. They've also provided the dates of the previous tenant before me and their new contact details.
  • 45002
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    45002 wrote:
    1316Baggies

    When Gas and Electric where privatizes all them years ago

    It was guaranteed by law that a tenant just like a home owner can choose there only Utilities supplier.

    1316Baggies

    Have a read of this

    http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/news/landlords-cant-stop-tenants-switching-energy-suppliers

    Find your own Utilities suppliers ...
    Advice given on Assured and Regulated Tenancy, Further advice should always be sought from a Solicitor....
  • pyueck
    pyueck Posts: 426 Forumite
    A) Are the meter numbers on the new bill the same as on your bills from british gas? If they are should simply be a case of telling then you have paid this meter with british gas and that they should sort it. If they are not ask the landlord to confirm which meter relates to the property you rented. If you were billed for the wrong meter then you may need to try to obtain a refund for the one you wrongfully paid for and pay for the one you should have.

    B) is this bill for exactly the period you rented?

    C) why has it taken so long to bill them. My understanding is that if it is the energy companies fault you are only liable for usage in the past year. I am assuming you haven't ignored previous letters.
  • pyueck wrote: »
    A) Are the meter numbers on the new bill the same as on your bills from british gas? If they are should simply be a case of telling then you have paid this meter with british gas and that they should sort it. If they are not ask the landlord to confirm which meter relates to the property you rented. If you were billed for the wrong meter then you may need to try to obtain a refund for the one you wrongfully paid for and pay for the one you should have.

    B) is this bill for exactly the period you rented?

    C) why has it taken so long to bill them. My understanding is that if it is the energy companies fault you are only liable for usage in the past year. I am assuming you haven't ignored previous letters.

    Thanks for your reply. In short..

    a) YES. But I believe when this building was split from a house into flats the metres were hooked up and labelled incorrectly.

    b) YES. But this is only because when EDF came out of the woodwork my landlord/estate agent simply gave them my details and the details of the tenant before me and the dates we lived there.

    c) I have no idea. I can only assume they have just discovered the point a) and their mistake.

    But either way, £2.5k for 2 years electricity for myself only is absurd, no??? Why am I being thrown under the bus here :(
  • 45002
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    You may be able to check who has been the suppliers over a certain time period by calling

    http://www.ukpower.co.uk/who-supplies-my-gas-and-electricity

    Back billing codes are practice are hear

    http://www.energy-uk.org.uk/files/docs/Factsheets%20and%20guides/back_billing_consumer_guide.pdf
    Advice given on Assured and Regulated Tenancy, Further advice should always be sought from a Solicitor....
  • pyueck
    pyueck Posts: 426 Forumite
    As it is for the same meter and you paid british gas just tell them this and you have no liability. Put in a complaint with edf. Whatever you do don't give them your bank details.

    If it is their fault you will be only liable for any usage in last 12 months anyway.

    The amount of the bill is not relevant if they are billing you correctly base on meter readings. 2500 in two years seems high but not unbelievable.

    Nobody is throwing you under the bus. There is clearly some mix up at edf, ring them up and try to sort it. Often energy bills are sent out by automated systems and can throw out all sort of oddities that the second a human eye sees what is going on will be corrected.

    Don't worry, this will get sorted unless you haven't actually paid for what you have said you have.
  • kinger101
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    But either way, £2.5k for 2 years electricity for myself only is absurd, no??? (

    It depends how many cannabis plants you were growing :rotfl:.

    Seriously though, if it's the same meter number on the BG and EDF bills, then one of the utility companies is mistaken.
    "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius
  • 45002
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    edited 15 February 2015 at 12:50AM
    Advice given on Assured and Regulated Tenancy, Further advice should always be sought from a Solicitor....
  • Pixie5740
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    You might be able to find out who was supplying the gas and electricity to your home using the following numbers:

    Who is my gas supplier
    To find out who your gas supplier is, call the M Number Enquiry Helpline on 0870 608 1524, this is a service provided by xoserve Ltd. They will tell you who your gas supplier is and can also give you your MPRN number which you may sometimes need when switching to a cheaper gas tariff.

    Who is my electricity supplier
    You can find out who your electricity supplier is by calling the local distribution company.

    They should confirm the registered supplier and provide you with a contact number for the electricity provider by checking your address details and meter serial number (normally located on a sticker attached to the meter) on their records. It is useful to take a note of your properties Meter Point Administration Number (MPAN) for future reference.

    The phone numbers for the distribution companies are below and are usually open normal 'office hours'.

    Region & Distributor Telephone number
    Eastern England EDF Energy 0845 601 5467
    East and West Midlands Central Networks 0845 603 0618
    London EDF Energy 0845 600 0102
    North Wales, Merseyside, Cheshire Sp Power Systems and North Shropshire 0845 270 9101
    North East England and CE Electric UK 0845 601 3268
    North West United Utilities 0870 751 0093
    North Scotland SSE Power Distribution 0845 026 2554
    South Scotland SP Power Systems 0845 270 9101
    South East England (Kent & EDF Energy parts of Sussex and Surrey) 0845 601 5467
    Southern England SSE Power Distribution 0845 026 2554
    South Wales Western Power Distribution 0845 601 5972
    South West England Western Power Distribution 0845 601 5972

    Do not call the 0845 numbers though, use Say No to 0870 to find cheaper, or better still free, alternative phone numbers.
  • eddddy
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    Pixie5740 wrote: »
    You might be able to find out who was supplying the gas and electricity to your home using the following numbers:

    <snip>

    I think the problem may be bigger than this. I'm guessing the background is something like this:

    There are 3 electric meters (meters A,B,C) in a communal cupboard supplying 3 flats (Flats 1,2,3). Meter A supplies Flat 1, Meter B supplies Flat 2, Meter C supplies Flat 3.


    But one of the following two problems has occurred:

    1) When the flats were converted, the developer told the supply company the wrong information. (i.e. Meter C supplies Flat 1, Meter B supplies Flat 2, Meter A supplies Flat 3.)

    Or

    2) The supply companies have the correct info, but the landlord gave the tenants the wrong information. (i.e. Landord said Meter C supplies Flat 1, Meter B supplies Flat 2, Meter A supplies Flat 3.)


    I suspect that option 2 is more likely. If so, the OP was was being supplied by British Gas, but providing readings from the wrong meter.


    @1316Baggies - I would just do the following. Write a letter to EDF saying:

    I was living at <address> between <date> and <date>. I paid British Gas for electricity under account number xxxx. If you believe that I should have been paying you instead, please explain why.
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