Tenant legs it

Guest101

anselld wrote: »

OP "sublet" a room in a shared house. Despite what any agreement might state, that would still make him a lodger.

OP would not need to protect deposit.

Tax would not be payable unless rent exceeds Rent-a-Room allowance.

Actually that's not accurate. A person can be given tenants rights when normally by law they wouldn't automatically receive them.

Again using the word sublet is actually my point. He sub leased it

Guest101

yz324 wrote: »

I removed the name and the address. This is exactly what he and I signed.

SUBLEASE AGREEMENT

This is an agreement to sublet real property according to the terms specified below. The sublessor agrees to sublet and the subtenant agrees to take the premises described below. Both parties agree to keep, perform and fulfill the promises, conditions and agreements below:

1. The sublessor is:

2. The subtenant is:

3. The location of the premises is:

4. The term of this sublease is 1 year, beginning 21/09/2013. The rent is £960 per quarter, payable in advance on the 21/09/2014, 21/12/2014, 21/03/2014. 21/06/2014. The rent is payable to Yufan Zhao.

5. The sublease agreement will terminate on 20/09/2014. There shall be no holding over under the terms of this sublease agreement under any circumstances.

6. Water and internet bills connected with premises which are to be paid by the sublessor and electricity and gas bills are shared between the subtenant and the sublessor.

7. Subtenant agrees to surrender and deliver to the sublessor the premises and all furniture and decorations within the premises in as good a condition as they were at the beginning of the term, reasonable wear and tear excepted. The subtenant will be liable to the sublessor for any damages occurring to the premises or the contents thereof or to the building which are done by the subtenant or his guests.

8. Subtenant agrees to pay to sublessor a deposit of £320 to cover damages and cleaning. Sublessor agrees that if the premises and contents thereof are returned to him in the same condition as when received by the subtenant, reasonable wear and tear thereof excepted, he will refund to the subtenant £320 at the end of the term, or within 30 days thereafter. Any reason for retaining a portion of the deposit shall be explained in writing within 30 days to the subtenant.

9. Subtenant agrees to purchase a TV licence, should he decides to watch live television. Should subtenant decides to watch live television and fail to purchase a TV licence, subtenant is responsible for all the fines with it.

10. Subtenant agrees to help to keep the communal areas in a reasonably tidy state. Subtenant is responsible for keeping the front garden in a tidy state. Failing to do so would result in a deduction of deposit for the associated cleaning or gardening cost.

Signature (sublessor)

Signature (subtenant)

Sounds like a tenant to me

OP: where it says address: does it say a room in 1 A Street, or does it just have the full address?

G_M

I suggest you delete your name from the contract above.

yz324

Why does Citizens Advice say:

In practice, if you share some accommodation with your landlord such as the bathroom or kitchen, then your rights are similar whether you are a subtenant or a lodger. People who share accommodation with their landlord are generally known as excluded occupiers. This is a term used in housing which helps to identify your housing rights. Excluded occupiers have very limited rights.

From what has been said, the rights seem very different?

yz324

Guest101 wrote: »

Sounds like a tenant to me

OP: where it says address: does it say a room in 1 A Street, or does it just have the full address?

Address says the full address.

agrinnall

G_M wrote: »

I suggest you delete your name from the contract above.

And Guest101 needs to remove it from the quote too.

anselld

Guest101 wrote: »

Actually that's not accurate. A person can be given tenants rights when normally by law they wouldn't automatically receive them.

Again using the word sublet is actually my point. He sub leased it

The word in itself is not that relevant. If the person "subletting" shares facilities with the Landlord then they will find themselves an "excluded occupier", aka lodger.

mjoneseyjones

Guest101 flailing his half baked knowledge passed off as fact again

Guest101

mjoneseyjones wrote: »

Guest101 flailing his half baked knowledge passed off as fact again

Go back under the bridge.

Guest101

anselld wrote: »

The word in itself is not that relevant. If the person "subletting" shares facilities with the Landlord then they will find themselves an "excluded occupier", aka lodger.

Unless giving more rights under contract. Which is what happened here.