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LDK - pay or ignore?

Hi everyone,

My dad has received a parking charge notice from LDK Security group after parking at the Lidl car park in Stanmoore.

Luckily I was reading up about all these parking charges and as conclusion it seems that I simply need to ignore them.
However there have been others that I read about that have heard from the company after 3/4 years and they were still claiming that they were being taken to court, but they did not get any court letters!

My question now is, should this parking ticket be paid or ignored? My dad claims that he parked only for 30 minutes and that the maximum stay there was 2 hours. Are they scamming him and hoping they can get money out of him?

I appreciate the help!
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  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    as it is in england then the advice has been do not ignore for over 2 years

    clearly you have not read the sticky thread for NEWBIES such as yourself , the one near the top of the forum above this one

    so please read it and formulate your action plan

    the laws changed in 2012 on this so that is why we say DO NOT IGNORE - APPEAL

    ps:- a court claim can be brought over 6 years so that is why you may see referrals about it , especially as tens of thousands of court claims are brought every year now
  • Paya
    Paya Posts: 8 Forumite
    Redx wrote: »
    as it is in england then the advice has been do not ignore for over 2 years

    clearly you have not read the sticky thread for NEWBIES such as yourself , the one near the top of the forum above this one

    so please read it and formulate your action plan

    the laws changed in 2012 on this so that is why we say DO NOT IGNORE - APPEAL

    ps:- a court claim can be brought over 6 years so that is why you may see referrals about it , especially as tens of thousands of court claims are brought every year now

    Thank you for the confirmation. I did read the sticky, but only thought that this was if you wanted to proceed with an appeal.

    I will look into it and in this case make an appeal to them.

    Thanks again!
  • Paya
    Paya Posts: 8 Forumite
    After reading up in the Newbie sticky, I have copied out the appeals template and decided to post this to the PPC.

    However, I came across something that I would like some help with clarifying, just to make sure they were not late with sending out their notice to owner.

    The parking charge date was 20/11/2014. The notice to owner that has been received is dated 15/01/2015. In their letter they state;

    "Despite a Parking Charge having already been issued, and placed on the sceen of your vehicle, or sent to you by post, we have not received payment from the driver. The opportunity to pay at the reduced amount has now passed and the full amount is now due".

    The full amount is 125 pounds (nutcases!). First of all, no ticket was placed on the windscreen and no letter was sent out. The only thing that was received was the notice to owner letter dated 15/11/2015, so I am wondering what happened in between and what can be done about it.

    In regards to the dates, let us say that I "did" receive the first letter, have they been within the expected dates in regards to sending out their notifications?

    Any help and advice is appreciated.
  • Umkomaas
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    Your question is, once again, covered in the NEWBIES sticky, please spend some time getting to grips with that; it will make this a lot easier for you.

    In the case of a windscreen ticket (whether you found it on the car or not) the PPC has to allow 28 days for the driver to pay/respond. After that time the PPC applies to the DVLA for the name and address of the Registered Keeper and must serve the RK with a Notice to Keeper (NtK) within the 28 days following the first 28 days.

    You need to work out the dates using the parking event date as 'Day 0' and go from there. But you need to be getting the initial appeal in within the timescale shown on the NtK - don't miss that. If they've screwed up on dates, then you make that point to POPLA (in due course).
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • hoohoo
    hoohoo Posts: 1,717 Forumite
    LDL have shot themselves in the foot. Appeal, then appeal to popla stating the notice to driver and notice to keeper are not POFA compliant and so as keeper you are not liable

    Appeal as keeper.

    Do not say who driver is.

    Once you get your evidence pack complain to BPA and DVLA

    Hint. To be compliant the ntk and ntk must ask for the same amount. The ntk will probably ask for £90. It certainly won't be over £100
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  • Paya
    Paya Posts: 8 Forumite
    hoohoo wrote: »
    LDL have shot themselves in the foot. Appeal, then appeal to popla stating the notice to driver and notice to keeper are not POFA compliant and so as keeper you are not liable

    Appeal as keeper.

    Do not say who driver is.

    Once you get your evidence pack complain to BPA and DVLA

    Hint. To be compliant the ntk and ntk must ask for the same amount. The ntk will probably ask for £90. It certainly won't be over £100

    Thanks for the info!

    P.S. the ntk is asking for £125 :mad:
  • ampersand
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    hoo-hoo, quick edit needed, #6, for any newbies who read:

    'To be compliant the ntk and ntk must ask for the same amount.'

    You know what will happen otherwise...:-)
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  • Paya
    Paya Posts: 8 Forumite
    Hello again, just updating on the current status.

    I send out the appeals letter (copied from the Sticky Thread) to appeal against the so-called ticket. However, I have now received another letter from them, after nearly a month of waiting, stating that they have not heard from me, nor did I pay the £125 charge.

    I posted the letter by first class, so they are either trying to play dumb by saying they did not receive anything or they really have not received it (which I doubt!).

    Do I now send out the same letter again and explain that this was send out previously or...?

    This letter comes from DRP (Debt Recovery Plus Ltd) and the title is stating "Notice of intended court action".

    Any advice is appreciated!
  • Dublindel
    Dublindel Posts: 406 Forumite
    Send a copy to both the debt collector and the ppc writing COPY on both. Add to debt collector, 'debt denied' unless a court says otherwise, they are then obliged to return the claim to the ppc. Get proof of posting when dealing with scum. They try every trick in the book.
  • Paya
    Paya Posts: 8 Forumite
    Dublindel wrote: »
    Send a copy to both the debt collector and the ppc writing COPY on both. Add to debt collector, 'debt denied' unless a court says otherwise, they are then obliged to return the claim to the ppc. Get proof of posting when dealing with scum. They try every trick in the book.

    Good idea, thank you. They are just wasting peoples time and money!

    I shall get that posted right away.
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