Docking Wages for Lateness

Takeaway_Addict

Babbawah wrote: »

All disciplinarys are harsh.

If I was disciplined for being late after eating in a restaurant & being spotted by my boss . . . then I would gladly accept all that was coming to me.

Why is my boss spotting me in restaurant when we both should be working?

Who said the boss was working? It was a theoretical situation though

Elfbert

I've always had jobs where you clock in and clock out - my current one pays you for exactly what you work, to the minute, which I like.

My old one would dock you 15 mins if you were three mins late. But that 'reset' for each 15 mins. So if you should have been there at 0730 (our start time) and turned up and 0735 you were docked money until 0745. If you turned up at 0747 you would be still be paid from 0745, if you see what I mean? And yes, people who were late did just go and make a brew and wait until their 'new' paid start time :rotfl:

Still, they also paid you when you stayed 15 mins late, so nobody really minded, tbh.

hcb42

I am all for timekeeping, it frustrates me when team members walk in at 0859 and 30 seconds for a 9am shift...but I would be leading the charge to change the above, it is not fair.

quietriot

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

I believe under Lieber the same rules applied...

Doubling down on the childish behaviour, I see.

Takeaway_Addict

quietriot wrote: »

Doubling down on the childish behaviour, I see.

Ha, you were a bit slower this time.

TELLIT01

hcb42 wrote: »

I am all for timekeeping, it frustrates me when team members walk in at 0859 and 30 seconds for a 9am shift...but I would be leading the charge to change the above, it is not fair.

What's the problem? They have arrived before their shift is due to start. If others want to arrive 10-15 minutes early and have a brew that's fine too. The problem can come from companies where if somebody arrives early they are assumed to be 'at work' so get dumped on by management. Yes I have been there, which is why I would now be firmly in the 30 seconds before start time group!

glentoran99

When i was a part time worker in a retailer we had to work 11 mins out of each 15 to get paid for the full 15, any more and you got deducted it from your wages, obviously we used that to our advantage and started at say 8.04 and finished at 17.19

jimmy2times

TELLIT01 wrote: »

What's the problem? They have arrived before their shift is due to start. If others want to arrive 10-15 minutes early and have a brew that's fine too. The problem can come from companies where if somebody arrives early they are assumed to be 'at work' so get dumped on by management. Yes I have been there, which is why I would now be firmly in the 30 seconds before start time group!

When i stsrted my job, I used to sometimes turn up 15-20 minutes before my clock in time (due to the bus times) and just start working. On them days, I'd sometimes try to leave a few minutes earlier (as I'd now worked my 9 hour shift) and the bosses went mad at me, lol. ''You must clock out at 6pm - No earlier!''
I'd say ''But I clocked in 15 minutes earlier and began working. I thought it'd be OK to then clock out 10 minutes earlier (meaning i'd still worked 5 minutes extra for free) so I can catch the earlier bus''
NO!!! is the answer.

So, like you say, I just then always started work at 9am on the exact dot. Not a second earlier.
I'd always be at the building 15 minutes before my shift due to the bus, but I'd just wait outside and play on my phone and my bosses always said ''you're here now, you may aswell get started loading the lorries?''
haha. ''No thanks. I won't get paid any more money. And it won't benefit me as I'll now be working my whole shift plus an extra 15 minutes. Why are we only strict on times/clocking in when it benefits YOU???''

quietriot

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

Ha, you were a bit slower this time.

I was quoting you, I thought it only fair to be a bit slow.

Undervalued

jimmy2times wrote: »

So, like you say, I just then always started work at 9am on the exact dot. Not a second earlier.
I'd always be at the building 15 minutes before my shift due to the bus, but I'd just wait outside and play on my phone and my bosses always said ''you're here now, you may aswell get started loading the lorries?''
haha. ''No thanks. I won't get paid any more money. And it won't benefit me as I'll now be working my whole shift plus an extra 15 minutes. Why are we only strict on times/clocking in when it benefits YOU???''

So, it never entered your head that had you shown willing and some commitment to the company you may have been first in line for any promotions etc? At the very least you may reduce your chances of being made redundant.

There are very few senior salaried positions where you can get away with doing the minimum if you have any aspirations to a career. OK, you may not have to clock in and out and can get away with arriving late occasionally but generally far more is expected of you that then minimum hours specified in your contract.