Who is supposed to underwrite/guarantee the care home fees

missile

laespanola wrote: »

Thank you to all who replied. Good news, the local authority has agreed to make a deferred loan for fees allowing me to be bypassed - which was the correct decision.

Glad to hear this issue has been resolved.

sheep-ali

scotsbob wrote: »

That seems a lot when presented as the per week charge.


If 24/7 care means someone is in the home for 168 hours a week then it averages out at about £10.50 an hour.


Considering that during the night people would be paid time and a half, or even double time. Then an average of £10.50 an hour doesn't seem unreasonable.

When you break it down like that , I agree that it does not seem unreasonable. It was just that as a weekly rate it seemed to be an incredible amount.

C_Mababejive

There is definitely a care home apartheid in place and i suppose,why shouldnt there be?

As my work takes me around a lot.i can say i have worked in private care homes which are pretty poor. Residents all sat round a tv all day in high chairs..i remember being in a kitchen when food was being prepared and the owner telling off one of the staff for putting too much orange juice in a jug. It was the cheap stuff you top up with water. He wanted more water in it !

I have also been in the deluxe version for the middle classes and better off. They are like luxury hotels with open spaces, shared areas, atriums, gardens,day to day activities..trips out.very comfy private rooms..i could live in one !

Should the aged poor be forced to live in low grade slum conditions whilst the state pays a good amount of money and relatives sometimes have to top up and all to line the pockets of rachmann style landlords who run these places? Some are nothing more than dying houses,,places of extreme misery. I'd rather walk under a train (or similar) and i hope i have the courage to do so..

cupcake4

My mum elected to go into a private BUPA Nursing Home for 6 weeks after her fifth hip replacement - she is 84.
The 'Nursing Home' charges her £950 a week which she has paid for out of her small savings.
My sister visited several Nursing Homes prior to choosing this one for Mum - she was taken in by the lovely Reception area and lounge etc.
After a few weeks, Mum could tell a different story - she is one of the few able minded patients there, so can speak up for herself.
2 carers to wash 32 patients - she can't get washed till 11a.m, despite continually asking.
She says that if they could squeeze another fee paying person they would.
Supper is 5 p.m., nothing after that till the morning, despite the fact that she needs to eat little and often.
She can't wait to get home - what about the poor patients who cannot speak up for themselves.
I think these so called 'Nursing Homes' rely, to a great extent, on getting away with as little as they can do.
AND, this is the private sector

margaretclare

cupcake4 wrote: »

My mum elected to go into a private BUPA Nursing Home for 6 weeks after her fifth hip replacement - she is 84.
The 'Nursing Home' charges her £950 a week which she has paid for out of her small savings.
My sister visited several Nursing Homes prior to choosing this one for Mum - she was taken in by the lovely Reception area and lounge etc.
After a few weeks, Mum could tell a different story - she is one of the few able minded patients there, so can speak up for herself.
2 carers to wash 32 patients - she can't get washed till 11a.m, despite continually asking.
She says that if they could squeeze another fee paying person they would.
Supper is 5 p.m., nothing after that till the morning, despite the fact that she needs to eat little and often.
She can't wait to get home - what about the poor patients who cannot speak up for themselves.
I think these so called 'Nursing Homes' rely, to a great extent, on getting away with as little as they can do.
AND, this is the private sector

Realistically, was a BUPA care home the right place for someone following a repeat hip replacement? Shouldn't she have gone to a 'step-down' or rehab stay, to help her to regain mobility and recover from the surgery?

Mojisola

cupcake4 wrote: »

My sister visited several Nursing Homes prior to choosing this one for Mum - she was taken in by the lovely Reception area and lounge etc.
After a few weeks, Mum could tell a different story - she is one of the few able minded patients there, so can speak up for herself.
2 carers to wash 32 patients - she can't get washed till 11a.m, despite continually asking.
Supper is 5 p.m., nothing after that till the morning, despite the fact that she needs to eat little and often.

Two of the 'best' homes in our area (according to the reports) are like 5* hotels when you look round them - everything is new and smart and the chefs are supposedly cordon bleu.

The reality of living in them (and they charge over £1k a week) is very different. The money all goes on the glamour - the staff are poorly paid and there is a very high turnover, only the absolute minimum are on duty at any one time and the management treat the residents like naughty school children.

I don't understand why they have any residents except that the management are very good at 'talking the talk'.