University Campus Parking - unclear rules (help needed)

unluckystudent

Hi there,

I've been reading the advice on appealing parking tickets from private bodies, and I plan to appeal based on the charge being disproportionate. However, since I was given the ticket by my University, I don't quite know what to claim a proportionate charge is.

I was parked for 3 hours in a permit holders only area (ignore of the sign attached to a nearby wall, on my behalf). The permits are not available to buy, but I was parked outside a bar on campus that was closed at the time that I parked. My argument is that £50 for three horus of parking is disproportionate, but I don't know what to compare it with.

If anyone could help me with this, I'd be very grateful - I've linked a scan in of the image below (with personal an univeristy details hidden), it's riddled with mistakes that are talked out in the forum but I don't know which to apply - it's got no official body, no explanation of how to charge was decided...

If it's relevant at all, the time on the ticket is about 2 minutes after I parked.

Thanks in advance for any help!

Unlucky Student

Front of ticket: imgur com/W9Ka4Pr
Back of ticket: imgur com/0ejgrig

Redx

impossible to advise you seeing as there are no details on the images to help, no university name, no name of the PPC who may have issued it, you havent said if this company or university are on the BPA or the IPC approved operator lists

The_Slithy_Tove

unluckystudent wrote: »

I've been reading the advice on appealing parking tickets from private bodies, and I plan to appeal based on the charge being disproportionate. However, since I was given the ticket by my University, I don't quite know what to claim a proportionate charge is.

Did you read the NEWBIES sticky thread? Standard appeal points can be found there. Don't start trying to bargain over what is reasonable. Their losses alone are what they should ask for. If that is zero, so be it.

Coupon-mad

I can't convert your ticket links form this PC - maybe another poster can.

Maybe F1rst Parking or CPP or UKPC? Easily won at appeal with the right words. Read the NEWBIES thread now I hope? It is all there for you already, near the top of the forum.

The_Slithy_Tove

Here you go

unluckystudent wrote: »

Front of ticket: http://imgur.com/W9Ka4Pr
Back of ticket: http://imgur.com/0ejgrig

Umkomaas

https://www.imgur.com/W9Ka4Pr

https://www.imgur.com/0ejgrig

unluckystudent

Hi everyone,

Thanks for your patience and help so far.

I don't think my University is part of either the IPC or the BPA, they just have grounds staff putting these in 'Documents Enclosed' letters on windscreens.

Shall I leave it until an NTK is sent home? (I am not the keeper, just the driver of the car). Can they actually get my details from the DVLA, and charge me further costs for doing so, if they aren't part of the IPC or BPA?

Thanks a ton to all who have helped/overlooked my newbie-ness.

Umkomaas

The key question is whether they will bother to request your details from the DVLA. Unless they are a BPA/IPC AOS member they won't have automatic access to your data.

However as the landowner they could make a paper request, but they won't be able to invoke keeper liability - they can only chase the driver.

I suggest you just wait and see what transpires. Do they have your car registration number linked to your personal details held at the uni?

They've got a 'nasty' on that PCN about withholding qualifications. I'm not sure what the legal situation is with this, but something you might take up with your Student Union, your MP and the Department for Education if the need arises.

Great advert for any potential student considering studying there!

unluckystudent

Umkomaas wrote: »

Great advert for any potential student considering studying here!

Haha, that's why I blocked it out of the photos - I don't want to be in trouble for 'Bringing the university into disrepute'.

They don't have my car registration on record, so they have no way of linking me to it and therefore no way to withhold my degree. If they made a paper request for details they could probably work out who I am from the address the car is registered to, but if they bother with all that I'll just pay before I graduate and think of it as a graduation fee :P

Umkomaas

Just keep us updated, it helps us build a picture of how universities are playing these homegrown PCNs - we are seeing one or two similar university cases being referred to us.

Good luck with exams and degree.

Paully232000

not about the parking charge per-se, but this is an interesting read re withholding a degree certificate, should the Uni go down that route, as detailed on the back of your ticket. Article does mention library debt, but also states relates to 'non tuition-fee debt'.

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/feb/18/oft-warns-universities-higher-education-groups-student-sanctions

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/02/24/universities-warned-library-fines-students-graduate_n_4845487.html