Would I be considered I made myself intentionally homeless if...

CKhalvashi

Poppie68 wrote: »

It's worth asking your LA about financial help with coming up with a deposit though... If they agree you will be able to pay it back when your current LL returns your deposit on this property.

In my area, it's done now through a credit union, and paid over 12 months if moving to the private sector.

I believe you have to find £20 a month to save through them for this 12 months, too, but I'm not 100% on that.

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Poppie68 wrote: »

Did you get prosecuted last year for HB fraud...You never updated the very long thread with the outcome....
You may find some LA and HA are reluctant to offer housing to an applicant under those circumstances...
As for the B&B they seem to be notoriously horrendous places and I wouldn't want to take my dog to live in one......As you live in London you could end up staying in there a very long time...
Maybe you studying can be put on the backburner to free up more time to look for a property..

No I didn't. It wasn't fraud. It turned out that the overpayment wasn't that big either. It's paid back.

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Londonsu wrote: »

OP if your comment or no renting payment means you stop paying rent then yes not paying rent will certainly be seen as making yourself IH you need to keep paying rent


If the OP leaves before she is evicted then some council will see it as being IH most will tell people to wait until the bailiffs are at the door, stressfull for the tenants and expensive for the LL (which is why many wont take HB tenants) but with too few council properties and too many people wanting them councils feel they have no choice.

I have NO intention to stop paying rent. I always pay in full and on time.
My post was not well written.

When_the_going_gets_tough

Op an application for social housing is not the same as a homelessness application - you need to do the latter - or check that your application has been accepted as such. You will not necessarily get social housing - if your application is accepted the local authority can discharge their duty to you by organising a private letting.

emsywoo123

Deleted_User wrote: »

I have been spending many hours every night researching my rights a...................

................but my daughter is very worried to the point it is affecting her schooling and her teacher keeps asking me questions about the situation in order to help me to reassure her.

.......... I am robust but my 7 year old is suffering.

I remember your thread about not telling the council for 3 years about your changes in circumstances. And now you have known for many weeks that your LL wants his house back.

As you are "robust", I will put this plainly.

If your DD's teacher is concerned and the situation is affecting your DD so badly, do something. Do not procrastinate like you did over your housing benefit claim, stop researching your rights and whatsits, use your time to pack and find a home. How can you say you will have time in half term when your DD is so affected? Pack now!

Sometimes you just have to face these things head on. Now is one of these times.

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emsywoo123 wrote: »

I remember your thread about not telling the council for 3 years about your changes in circumstances. And now you have known for many weeks that your LL wants his house back.

As you are "robust", I will put this plainly.

If your DD's teacher is concerned and the situation is affecting your DD so badly, do something. Do not procrastinate like you did over your housing benefit claim, stop researching your rights and whatsits, use your time to pack and find a home. How can you say you will have time in half term when your DD is so affected? Pack now!

Sometimes you just have to face these things head on. Now is one of these times.

And how I am supposed to pay for deposit, rent in advance, man and a van, agency fees? I have some savings but it isn't enough. My next pay day is exactly on the day of my LL's illegal notice.
BTW the HB issue was ANOTHER issue and it was my EXs husband's fault.

lighting_up_the_chalice

Generali wrote: »

That doesn't sound harsh so much as judgemental and completely unhelpful.

I bet you wouldn't say that to the OP's face.

Suggesting a parent shields their 7 year old child from the harsh realities of adult life? I'd have absolutely no problem with doing that face-to-face. I would also consider it to be very helpful advice.

lighting_up_the_chalice

Deleted_User wrote: »

And how I am supposed to pay for deposit, rent in advance, man and a van, agency fees? I have some savings but it isn't enough. My next pay day is exactly on the day of my LL's illegal notice.
BTW the HB issue was ANOTHER issue and it was my EXs husband's fault.

If the notice is illegal, then it's also unenforceable, so you don't need to move when it expires. Of course, I'm sure the LL will get it right eventually. But that gives you a chance to save for the costs of a move.

BigAunty

Shelter are the best place people to advise (housing advice charity). See their website for their section on homelessness which explains the process. They may have a drop in centre near you and are contactable by phone.

'Intentional homelessness' is about being refused any right to being helped by the local council if you are responsible for your own homelessness, for example, for not paying rent when you could have or through anti social behaviour.

There are two tiers to get social housing - one through homelessness and one through a general application (i.e. waiting list/choice based letting). If you've applied before you received your written notice from your landlord, you need to contact the homelessness department as there are emergency procedures.

Note that the homeless in England are not guaranteed social housing - the council can discharge its legal statutory duties towards the homeless (those with no tenure past the next 28 days) by offering a suitable 1 year tenancy in the private sector.

Shelter will be able to tell you about your rights when it comes to the duration you could expect in a B&B or hostel. The council may also publish info on the options they offer.

Some councils offer deposit guarantee schemes for certain types of applicants in housing need or on benefits - check if your council offers this and if you meet its criteria.

BigAunty

Poppie68 wrote: »

I wouldn't think you would be seen as intentionally homeless or homeless... You are moving because the LL wants the property back through no fault of yours...
Lack of time to search for a property and pack etc doesn't make you homeless either.

Actually Shelter have outlined that the legal definition of homelessness includes being under threat of homeless, such as being served notice by the landlord. So yes, the council may have a duty of care and that's what their homelessness application process will determine.


http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/homelessness/homelessness_-_an_introduction/legal_definition_of_homelessness