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"Rent Freedom Day"
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Private renting used to be a lifestyle choice, not a necessity. Too many landlords just see their tenants as pound signs to be squeezed.
There is little you can do about it as a tenant. I have been fortunate in most of my rentals, but you are walking on eggshells with renewals and repairs. Make too much of a nuisance of yourself and it's s21 with no reference time.0 -
ruggedtoast wrote: »Private renting used to be a lifestyle choice, not a necessity. Too many landlords just see their tenants as pound signs to be squeezed.
There is little you can do about it as a tenant. I have been fortunate in most of my rentals, but you are walking on eggshells with renewals and repairs. Make too much of a nuisance of yourself and it's s21 with no reference time.
private renting was never a lifestyle choice: virtually everyone since the war would have preferred to be an owner occupier.
Try talking to mum, dad and grandparents about real life (once you have made up with them of course).0 -
as a landlord I find these threads quite interesting. From my perspective, it makes no financial sense to evict a tenant, unless they are destroying the house.
A few scenarios- they are paying under the market rent as rents have gone up by more than inflation. It doesn't make sense to evict them as even a 2 week void (this is very optimistic) is not going to be offset by a £50 a month increase in rent, and the cost of check out and getting new tenants in with an assumption of an average tenancy of 2 years.... There is also an element of better the devil you know so to speak.
Tenants keep asking for repairs. I want this (within reason- I did once have someone who asked for the taps to be changed as they didn't like the style of them) as a stitch in time saves 9. By doing repairs, the tenants will also realise that I am not a slumlord, and protect my investment. Things that need repairing don't typically fix themselves, they get worse, and cost more. It also makes the tenant more likely to stay for a long time
They are untidy, and not very clean. Again, most people in this situation are not worthy of a channel5 documentary, and I have a deposit. A reminder to be tidy is all that's needed.
They want a pet. Typically, people clean up after their pet, and see previous comment about deposits....
They upset the neighbours. This is the only time I have asked someone to leave, and justified.
I accept that there are bad landlords, but there are also bad tenants. The majority of people are not malicious on either side.
All of my tenants want to rent, due to either a recent change in situation, or they don't want they hassle of owning a house, and have disposable income to spendNo longer an accidental landlord, still a wannabe millionaire:beer:
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ruggedtoast wrote: »Private renting used to be a lifestyle choice, not a necessity.private renting was never a lifestyle choice: virtually everyone since the war would have preferred to be an owner occupier.
I suspect what ruggedtoast is referring to is how it was for many of my generation - you rent for a few years while you are at uni and then for a year or a few years afterwards while you are sorting out what you are doing with your career and where you want to live in the medium rather than short term, and then you buy when you are ready to settle down. So in that sense renting in the short term was a lifestyle choice. I agree that private renting in the long term has never been a lifestyle choice for almost anybody.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
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Fundamentally, the problem the UK housing market has is too few houses.
Another fundamental change is how much space each person expects - many of the houses and flats there are are not going nearly as far as they would have in terms of number of people housed a century ago.But a banker, engaged at enormous expense,Had the whole of their cash in his care.
Lewis Carroll0 -
A few scenarios- they are paying under the market rent as rents have gone up by more than inflation. It doesn't make sense to evict them as even a 2 week void (this is very optimistic) is not going to be offset by a £50 a month increase in rent, and the cost of check out and getting new tenants in with an assumption of an average tenancy of 2 years.... There is also an element of better the devil you know so to speak.
Indeed. I expect that's why my landlords didn't so much as mention the possibility of raising my rent during the 5 years (2005-10) that I was in my last rented property. They had had a series of 6 month or 1 year tenants before me, and were thrilled to have someone who wanted to stay for longer.Tenants keep asking for repairs. I want this (within reason- I did once have someone who asked for the taps to be changed as they didn't like the style of them) as a stitch in time saves 9. By doing repairs, the tenants will also realise that I am not a slumlord, and protect my investment. Things that need repairing don't typically fix themselves, they get worse, and cost more. It also makes the tenant more likely to stay for a long time
My landlords whinged about the fact that many of the repairs I asked for should have been done earlier, and how annoyed they were that the previous tenants had not bothered reporting the faults.They are untidy, and not very clean. Again, most people in this situation are not worthy of a channel5 documentary, and I have a deposit. A reminder to be tidy is all that's needed.
Why is it any of the landlord's business whether the tenant is tidy or not? They will take all their stuff with them when they move out. When they are having quiet enjoyment of the property they are renting, it should be up to them whether they choose to keep their belongings put away in cupboards or all over the floor.They want a pet. Typically, people clean up after their pet, and see previous comment about deposits....
Mine also added in an extra clause that I would have to produce evidence that the carpets had been professionally cleaned when I moved out, because of the dog. I still think that a well behaved pet usually causes less mess and damage than a toddler. My dog was sick on the carpet once or twice, but at least he never drew on the walls. (Not that the drawing on the wall troubled my landlord - my friend and I redecorated that wall so you'd never know it had been drawn on.)Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0 -
Why is it any of the landlord's business whether the tenant is tidy or not? They will take all their stuff with them when they move out. When they are having quiet enjoyment of the property they are renting, it should be up to them whether they choose to keep their belongings put away in cupboards or all over the floor.
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Completely agree - I mentioned it as its one of the commonly quoted examples of reasons for an S21. I don't care if my tenants file their groceries alphabetically, or are as untidy as me.
In terms of pets, I agree as well, and as an animal lover, I would not want to stop someone else having pets. Apart from snakes.....but I just don't like snakes :-)No longer an accidental landlord, still a wannabe millionaire:beer:
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If you rent from a private landlord, you’re probably under pressure. You spend on average two days wages every week on rent, you have a one in three chance of living in squalor and "you have very little protection if the landlord wants their property back.
The good news is you’re in good company. There are now ten million private renters in Britain and for the first time we have enough votes to decide the next election. Politicians can no longer ignore us.
That’s why on Wednesday 4th February, Generation Rent is hosting Rent Freedom Day. A day for ordinary private renters and their allies to hammer home the message to Westminster – that we are angry, organised and ready to evict any MP who doesn’t tackle the serious issues facing private renters today."
http://www.rentfreedomday.org/
The great unwashed think they can swing the election result
Very kind of you to impart this information; I didnt know about this so I will make sure my 3 adult children (and their friends) who are all in this situation are aware and can take action.
Thanks again. :beer:0 -
I wonder if Crashy will be attending rent freedom day.
Probably not because renting is gr8.This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com0 -
Take a more European view then , that renting is ok and perfectly normal , and be less angry about it..?
Also you don't need to save for building repairs/maintenance/re-modelling ....so there is always a positive to things if you look hard enough.
Being angry ain't going to change it.
I couldn't care too much if house prices rise or fall, my house is my home first, and I understand frustrations of trying to get onto the ladder.....but maybe things are changing. Maybe our country will become more a renter than owner place for a while.
The comparison is more like social rented housing rather than the private rental market. Security of tenure, reasonable, affordable rent, being able to make it your home.... all are typical of European renting not the UK private rentals.0
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