Car wont jump start

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Marktheshark wrote: »

Possibly, when batteries die they go in to rapid discharge state, very hard to jump the car off without some very industrial jump leads.
They can even drag down a battery on the jump start when they get really KO'd.
How old is the battery ?
5+ years and its almost odds on it done.

Thanks Mark, I think I might actually be flogging dead horse (well, battery), as come to think of it, the battery is 8 years old.:o

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RMS2 wrote: »

No, very unlikely. Even if a battery is dead, you're still connecting up a new power source to the car. I take it you have started and run the donor car whilst trying to turn your over?

Yes, done that.

RMS2 wrote: »

All that the dead battery should do, is act as a sort of capacitor for the donor unit, BTW, you are doing red to red and black to black with the leads?

Yes, colours match up !

RMS2 wrote: »

With it being so icy, you do have good antifreeze in it that you haven't been topping up with lots of water?

No, its just back from a winter service.

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gilbert_and_sullivan wrote: »

Why does the OP's post link to Eurocarparts on the word battery?

I will try and sort that out. I had actually poste the question in the Kia Owners forum as well, so its obviously something that has been imported (without my knowledge) with the copy and paste.
:mad:

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scotsman4th wrote: »

Had the exact same symptoms on the OHs Cee'd.

Lights, turn key, lights went out and no attempt to start.

I gave the battery negative a shake, it started. Gave the bolts attaching to the body a tighten and it's been ok since

I will give it another go tomorrow, however as another member pointed out, its odds on that the battery is just too old.

---lee---

After connecting the jump leads to the donor car. + to + and neg from donor to part of the bare metalwork in the engine bay away from the battery on the flat car.

Make sure the donor car is running and wait at least 5 to 10 mins before trying to start the flat car.

Then disconnect negative first from each vehicle, then +.

Donor car would also need to be a diesel with a decent battery.

I would only jump start the flat car if you are going for a good run in it, otherwise it makes more sense to charge the battery out of the car.

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Marktheshark wrote: »

As a check, get the black jump lead, clip it on the battery earth terminal on the car that wont start find somewhere metal on the engine on the car that wont start and clip tit on and see what happens.
eliminate any earth issues as a check

Thanks Mark...what is supposed to happen anyway ?

Dr._Shoe

Try disconnecting one or both of the dead battery leads so that your car is efectively using the power direct from the donor's battery instead of the power going through the battery. I've even been known to connect direct to the starter motor but I wouldn't advise it unless you really know what you're doing. It's a trick a previous boyfriend (who was a mechanic) showed me.

Dr._Shoe

---lee--- wrote: »

After connecting the jump leads to the donor car. + to + and neg from donor to part of the bare metalwork in the engine bay away from the battery on the flat car.

Make sure the donor car is running and wait at least 5 to 10 mins before trying to start the flat car.

Then disconnect negative first from each vehicle, then +.

Donor car would also need to be a diesel with a decent battery.

I would only jump start the flat car if you are going for a good run in it, otherwise it makes more sense to charge the battery out of the car.

It doesn't actualy matter. My ex has jumped my petrol car with his diesel and vice versa.

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forgotmyname wrote: »

Your dead battery is draining the power from the leads. You need some better leads and a car with a massive alternator capable of putting out enough power to overcome the dead battery.

Why didnt you stick the battery on charge as soon as it failed to start? A dead battery can lose its capacity to recharge. In this cold weather that can happen quite quickly and a dead battery can actually freeze where a charged one wont.

Charge it and stick the jump leads on. Get the battery and alternator tested.

I did use heavy duty jump leads, but will take the battery off and try and charge it tomorrow, but in all probability, its just a new battery that is required. Thanks.

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Norman_Castle wrote: »

What car has your wife got?. I tried to start a diesel Vectra with my petrol Volvo which did not have the output to start it. I tried shortly afterwards with a diesel transit and it started quite easily. Diesels need more power to start them.

Its a Mitsubishi L200 pick up !