Paternity Pay help

SeduLOUs

sheramber wrote: »

Paternity pay is £138.18.pw Not everybody can absorb such a pay cut with all the bills still to pay.

Yes, perhaps 'fill the gap' was a bit of an overstatement. Close the gap slightly in most cases!

ScotimusPrime

bloolagoon wrote: »

To be fair saying your current two children are already supported by benefits - WTC, CTC, CB. Then having a go at someone for asking why you had a 3rd then responding with clever budgeting seems strange.

The benefits we claim are only a prop and not a full means of support. We are legally entitled to them and I have paid my fair share into the pot over the years. We are not a strain on the societal coffers and never will be.

ScotimusPrime

SeduLOUs wrote: »

Paternity is paid if you are working long enough to be entitled.

The system has to prevent abuse by people who would only get a job in order to get maternity/paternity benefits (hence the qualifying weeks). Maternity/paternity pay is designed to allow one parent to take time off work without losing all of the pay they would have normally had - if you didn't work in the first place, there is nothing to lose, and had OP or his partner been working for longer, they would have been entitled.

I was working prior to this job and that job and the previous job and so on.

Takeaway_Addict

bloolagoon wrote: »

To be fair saying your current two children are already supported by benefits - WTC, CTC, CB. Then having a go at someone for asking why you had a 3rd then responding with clever budgeting seems strange.

You will need to take annual leave or unpaid leave, if renting then perhaps housing benefit.

I do think paternity should be paid and think it's wrong that the government doesn't as 2 weeks isnt a lot and know as a mother I'd want my husband to keep his annual leave but as you know there's not this in place if not entitled.

It is but you still have to meet criteria beforehand

Takeaway_Addict

ScotimusPrime wrote: »

The benefits we claim are only a prop and not a full means of support. We are legally entitled to them and I have paid my fair share into the pot over the years. We are not a strain on the societal coffers and never will be.

Just on that you, will take out far more in your life time than you put in but I don't blame you for taking what you can

ScotimusPrime

blondebubbles wrote: »

If they can afford to support another child which the OP said they could, then surely they could put away £35 per month for 8 months to cover what would be the 2 weeks OSPP. Or save their leave and take that so there is no loss of pay.

When my wife fell pregnant, I was in full time employment and would easily have qualified for OSPP. Having had it in the past no problem with my other two, I didn't envisage a problem this time around. Obviously, when I changed jobs, it didn't occur to me that there would be an issue until the point of booking it upon my return after Christmas. Therefore, no need to save, then no time to save.

Anyway, all this debate is entirely superfluous. The question has been answered, I need to use my annual leave if I want to be paid. Not ideal but tis what tis.

ScotimusPrime

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

Just on that you, will take out far more in your life time than you put in but I don't blame you for taking what you can

That's not entirely accurate. There was a large period of time where I had no wife or dependants and also a time where I earned too much to qualify and I intend to move into self employment in the near future, I just need to iron out the creases before taking the leap.

Takeaway_Addict

ScotimusPrime wrote: »

That's not entirely accurate. There was a large period of time where I had no wife or dependants and also a time where I earned too much to qualify and I intend to move into self employment in the near future, I just need to iron out the creases before taking the leap.

Education, NHS, Road work etc etc

I'm not having a dig on taking what you're entitled to because whilst the government allow it everyone should. Just pointing out that ultimately the tax gained from employment is a small fraction of the total cost of things paid for by taxes

SeduLOUs

ScotimusPrime wrote: »

I was working prior to this job and that job and the previous job and so on.

Sorry if it seemed that way but I wasn't actually accusing you of obtaining employment solely to seek additional benefits, but obviously there have to be requirements in place to prevent people from doing exactly that.

I do think the rules should be more lenient, and if you have been in steady employment for the qualifying weeks with multiple employers (and no gaps between) then you should be entitled in the same way that someone who has worked for the same employer would be.

Unfortunately they aren't though.