Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

Leanne1812

CLAPTON wrote: »

so why is not a single SNP after listening to the arguments and then changing their mind, a unifying act?

grow up and try to drop that chip on the shoulder and try to apply the same logic to the hated English as you apply to the SNP.

My last response to you.

I've been more generous than I should have with my time since once again you resort to ludicrous nonsense that makes sense only to you.

I can only imagine the MP's did not think it was a good idea and thus voted against it. Simples.

elantan

Leanne1812 wrote: »

David Mundell, Scotland's only conservative MP did. Couldn't imagine him rebelling though to be fair. The rest voted against as you know.

So no, not a single one changed their minds. Tommy Sheppard did give a good speech in which he mentioned a proposed clause which seemed to have the Tories in a bit of a spin. Seems they're not really too sure exactly what EVEL means.

I've been wondering are Scottish lords to be excluded from any decision making? If not why not, anyone know?

My understanding is Michelle Mone will have more say than the elected Scottish representatives ...

CLAPTON

Leanne1812 wrote: »

My last response to you.

I've been more generous than I should have with my time since once again you resort to ludicrous nonsense that makes sense only to you.

I can only imagine the MP's did not think it was a good idea and thus voted against it. Simples.

I agree the MPs of all parties made up their minds on the issues and voted accordingly.

so what exactly was your whinge?

skintmacflint

Leanne1812 wrote: »

Skint,

I read that blog. I found it strange why he didn't name & shame the MP don't you?

He is no different to wings except polar opposite views. Both strong minded and crude at times. I did notice Kevin corresponds regularly on Twitter with Maggie Vaughan. I had no idea who she was until fairly recently! She refers to wings as 'rat boy'. Nice talk from a soon to be 'Lady'.

Why do you think an SNP MP would be shamed by anything he/she was quoted as saying in this article.

elantan

elantan wrote: »

I'm really struggling to understand your total lack of understanding regards West minister and not the English, are you incapable of understanding ?

Generali did you answer this and I missed it ? ... or are you blanking the question cause you know I have a point

Leanne1812

skintmacflint wrote: »

Why do you think an SNP MP would be shamed by anything he/she was quoted as saying in this article.

Well Kevin reported it as independence at any cost. I'd imagine if this were true the MP concerned would like to state his side of this conversation.

As it stands this fits perfectly with the notion that all these crazy 'nats' think like this.

Happygreen

Tromking wrote: »

I noted that Andrew Neill announced today that the English education system had now overtaken the Scots one as regards performance. Damning for the SNP if true.

Well, the so-called new "Curriculum for Excellence" has been an absolute shot in the foot so far. Mere torture for the young minds and the teachers are so stressed as nobody knows what's coming (see last Higher Maths exam results). Absolute failure, thanks - to whoever was in charge - for that one ....ah, that must have been cooked up under the previous government from 2003, so we can't blame the SNP for it.

Shakethedisease

skintmacflint wrote: »

No I said I didn't think it was possible to be a credible investigative journalist with unashamed bias. Particularly not the level of unashamed bias the Rev has. End of comment.

Just because you choose to misinterpret, or make sweeping assumptions on my comment doesn't make it true.

As for rest methinks you sometimes protest too much, when it suits naturally. Wings isn't followed by 1.4 million Yes voters is it.?

If you keep misinterpreting other's post, I will be left with no option but to think you're doing it on purpose.

The 'mind of a nat' ? I misinterpreted nothing. You posted a link to a blog that says that anyone who read's Wings has some sort of screw loose or mental impairment/disorder. It has nothing to do with the topic, and joke or not. Is a little insulting to one's intelligence. I'm surprised you buy into that sort of crap.. or ever think it 'apt'. 1.4 million people in Scotland ARE 'nats' or at least voted for them in May.

• Within milliseconds of the first reading, endorphins are released in the brain’s alternative reality receptive centres
• Relief stimulates the repressed moral superiority centre of the brain – outraged sanctimony runs quickly up and down the dendrites
• The cerebral cortex composes and constructs an imaginary unfulfilled vow scenario
• Impaired blood flow to the limbic system releases a rush of unimpaired anger directed at Unionists/MSM/Non-Nationalist charlatans/whoever
• A full paragraph held in the heid for several seconds triggers an increase of dopamine and sense of euphoria in Nationalist MPs like Philippa Whitford and “oddball” Wings acolytes alike.....

...and so it continues.


I voted for Philipa actually. Must have had some sort of impaired flow to the limbic system and rushed to the polling booth full of unimpaired anger..

I have no wish whatsoever to do 'battle of the blogs' here. You read what you read, I read what I do. I rarely post comments from Wings here. But sometimes, there's no other source of data.. and he provides it. And does it well too.

Generali

elantan wrote: »

Generali did you answer this and I missed it ? ... or are you blanking the question cause you know I have a point

Neither really. Most of the time since you made the point I have been sleeping, doing laundry and making breakfast for the family (raisin toast for the kids and lasagne for Mrs Generali now you ask). I saw your point but wasn't going to answer but if you want to press for one then I answer thus:

It is my sincere belief, and I suspect the belief of many English people, that Scots Nationalists are largely driven by a hatred for the English. As the SNP leadership is too savvy to leave themselves open to the very obvious call of them being racist if they use the term 'English' when talking about oppressors etc they use the term 'Westminster' instead.

It's called Dog Whistle politics. To non-SNP followers, and to the ones that genuinely don't hate the English, the word 'Westminster' sounds completely anodyne. To those that do when someone says the 'Westminster' they substitute a phrase along the lines of 'bloody English'.

All the parties engage in dog whistle politics to some extent. The Tories do it when discussing immigration for example.

zagubov

Generali wrote: »

Neither really. Most of the time since you made the point I have been sleeping, doing laundry and making breakfast for the family (raisin toast for the kids and lasagne for Mrs Generali now you ask). I saw your point but wasn't going to answer but if you want to press for one then I answer thus:

It is my sincere belief, and I suspect the belief of many English people, that Scots Nationalists are largely driven by a hatred for the English. As the SNP leadership is too savvy to leave themselves open to the very obvious call of them being racist if they use the term 'English' when talking about oppressors etc they use the term 'Westminster' instead.

It's called Dog Whistle politics. To non-SNP followers, and to the ones that genuinely don't hate the English, the word 'Westminster' sounds completely anodyne. To those that do when someone says the 'Westminster' they substitute a phrase along the lines of 'bloody English'.

One wonders how much criticism of the "SNP" is driven by hatred of our northern brethren. Lots of media reports have used "Ginger" as an insult. Good job it's not an anagram of a hateword or something.

There's already talk on this forum about boycotting (or asset-stripping) Scottish organisations or companies (but obviously never the other way round).:whistle: