Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

kabayiri

chewmylegoff wrote: »

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So, why then does Sturgeon not use her democratic mandate in order in impose addition taxes on the Scottish "rich", using the tax raising powers she already has, in order to fund more public spending? Why is the only option for the UK govt to borrow even more money and give it to Scotland to spend?

The Scottish parliament could indeed raise more money.

They could try and spend what they have more efficiently.

They could promote fairness between the haves and the have nots by charging for further education; just as we south of the border have to. This would free up money to deal with the effects of austerity.

*All* of these considerations are what we pay the elected officials to look at.

Instead, Sturgeon takes the easy way out and blames the UK government.

kabayiri

chewmylegoff wrote: »

I see Sturgeon has made a speech demanding that the UK government must pay attention to the will of the Scottish people and abandon austerity policies.
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She doesn't quite get this election process does she?

There was and is nothing stopping the SNP from standing for election in every seat in the UK.

Win a majority of those seats and the SNP have their mandate for their policies, no question.

Alternatively, the Scottish people could have voted for a left of centre UK wide party which already exists - Labour. They chose not to.

No point in bleating on about it now.

IveSeenTheLight

Tromking wrote: »

LOL.
As long as you concede that for Scotland`s needs to met you a require a bung from the English!

When you look at the figures, Scotland's contribution outweighs ALL other regions of the UK other than London and the South East.

Those are the facts.

.string.

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

When you look at the figures, Scotland's contribution outweighs ALL other regions of the UK other than London and the South East.

Those are the facts.

What are the figures you base that on?

Please give them.

IveSeenTheLight

chewmylegoff wrote: »

So, why then does Sturgeon not use her democratic mandate in order in impose addition taxes on the Scottish "rich", using the tax raising powers she already has, in order to fund more public spending?

She may well do if we have full Fiscal Autonomy or Devo Max

Only then will the Scottish government be able to provide a balanced budget for their electorate.

Until then, they could only tinker with consequences outwith their control.

IveSeenTheLight

.string. wrote: »

What are the figures you base that on?

Please give them.

I'll gladly google them for you later.
The Office For National Statistics have a GVA per head per region breakdown

Here's a quick image


Here's an excellent interactive map showing a further breakdown
http://www.neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/HTMLDocs/dvc220/index.html

Generali

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

I'll gladly google them for you later.
The Office For National Statistics have a GVA per head per region breakdown

Here's a quick image


Here's an excellent interactive map showing a further breakdown
http://www.neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/HTMLDocs/dvc220/index.html

So we see from that map that London basically pays for the UK. It makes up the shortfall between the rest of the country living like perhaps Spain (Scotland) or Czech Republic (NE England, NI).

It's funny that everyone seems to hate London and the Londoners. Londoners don't care about the rest of the country of course but they are prepared to pay for it.

.string.

@IveSeenTheLight - Thank you, and what are the Scotland/England/Wales N.I. values you are using?

IveSeenTheLight

Generali wrote: »

So we see from that map that London basically pays for the UK. It makes up the shortfall between the rest of the country living like perhaps Spain (Scotland) or Czech Republic (NE England, NI).

It's funny that everyone seems to hate London and the Londoners. Londoners don't care about the rest of the country of course but they are prepared to pay for it.

It seems I keep having to defend SNP, Barnett Formula, Scottish Contributions etc, but I'd like to get away from all that and ask an open question that I've been trying to gain focus on to no avail.

So lets forget about all that for a moment.

My questions is: -

Why does the UK have to be so London centric?

Take Germany for example, a country often lauded for having a great economic base.

The capital is Berlin and that is where their Parliament is, yet Berlin only contributes 4% to the German economy.

What could be done to distribute the economy more evenly in the UK

IveSeenTheLight

.string. wrote: »

@IveSeenTheLight - Thank you, and what are the Scotland/England/Wales N.I. values you are using?

They're in the image and the links I provided