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Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

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  • kabayiri
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    elantan wrote: »
    ...
    Thursday shows that the people of Scotland have voted for loose change, we've had enough subsidy now ...
    ...

    Fixed that for you ;)
  • kabayiri
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    what sort of change do the people of Scotland want?

    Fairness : so all the peoples of the UK enjoy the same level of block grant
    Fairness so that the only the English can vote of matters that are devolved?
    Democratic choice whether to stay in the EU?

    What reasonable person could argue against any of those?
    :)
  • elantan
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    kabayiri wrote: »
    Fixed that for you ;)

    Nice try but we all know it didnt need fixing ... even though my spelling is not the best :)
  • kabayiri
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    elantan wrote: »
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    Thursday shows that the people of Scotland have voted for change, we've had enough now ...

    gonna be interesting times ahead

    If the people of Scotland had voted Conservative then they really would have voted for change.

    56 seats inside the ruling party level of change.

    Sometimes, you just have to play the system.
  • Generali
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    Just for the absence of any doubt:

    - Nation. A group of people with a shared characteristic or characteristics. Examples could be geographical (Scottish Nation, Arab Nation) or another tribal affiliation (Gay Nation, Zulu Nation).
    - Country. A sovereign body with defined borders.

    Scotland is a nation that some people want to turn into a country.
  • zagubov
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    kabayiri wrote: »
    If the people of Scotland had voted Conservative then they really would have voted for change.

    56 seats inside the ruling party level of change.

    Sometimes, you just have to play the system.

    If there had been a shy SNP effect as well as a shy Tory effect, this outcome would have been much more interesting. ;)
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  • CLAPTON
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    Generali wrote: »
    Just for the absence of any doubt:

    - Nation. A group of people with a shared characteristic or characteristics. Examples could be geographical (Scottish Nation, Arab Nation) or another tribal affiliation (Gay Nation, Zulu Nation).
    - Country. A sovereign body with defined borders.

    Scotland is a nation that some people want to turn into a country.

    so skye is a nation
    or yorkshire
    or edinburgh
    or fort william

    or the SNP who share lots of characteristics


    thanks for clearing that up
  • Shakethedisease
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    kabayiri wrote: »
    Once again. You are making an interpretation which just isn't there.

    He played the anti-Labour card, if anything! He let people question the governability which Ed Miliband would have, suggesting he would be undermined.

    I wish you would realise not everything is about Scotland. It's not. The election was UK wide - it's just you can't see it. Frankly, it's SAD.

    And once again, you're trying to tell me that various political commentators and the people I live, work, socialise and interact with are wrong.

    You daftie. You have absolutely no idea and not the slightest foggiest clue how Scottish people interpreted the ( many ) things like 'aJockalypse' and Alex Salmond ( the former First Minister ) being portrayed as a pickpocket in order to 'get to Ed Miliband'. Because you aren't here and don't cast your vote, nor have the same choices as people here. You should mabye respect that occasionally. Other people have different views. And something you might find hilarious, or in fact 'just a bit of fun' is often not to others who are on the receiving end.

    This thread ( about to run it's course ) is about Scotland. You may have missed it somewhere in the mad rush to tell everyone that you personally, .. know better than the 5 million who actually live there, know better in fact than anyone who actually lives there, or the 50% that voted SNP a few days ago.. but it's true !
    That's why posts about Scotland are contained within it it. It's a Scottish thread ! Or perhaps you feel I and others who are interested in Scottish politics have interpreted this wrong somehow also ?

    Those that are interested in Scottish politics, tend to post and debate on threads that.. are about Scottish politics. Who knew ? And you're calling that sad ? Why ? Away you go and post on some other threads if you don't like talking about Scottish things on Scotland based threads. There are plenty more for you to choose from.

    A fair few of those who live in Scotland. Were not in the least impressed by the Tory campaign's anti-Scottish tone in order to 'get to Miliband'. It solidified the SNP vote, and that was partly the point of it. The proof was in the pudding on Thursday night ( is that open to interpretation too ? ). But I don't think even the Tories dreamed it would work so well.

    And if I'm going to talk plainly then, in short,... the Tory campaign really, really !!!!ed off a lot of Scottish voters. And you can 'interpret' that how you like luv. :)
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • Shakethedisease
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    so skye is a nation
    or yorkshire
    or edinburgh
    or fort william

    or the SNP who share lots of characteristics


    thanks for clearing that up

    So, was the Union in 1707 two 'regions' uniting then ?
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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    know better than the 5 million who actually live there, know better in fact than anyone who actually lives there, or the [STRIKE]50%[/STRIKE] 35% that voted SNP a few days ago.. but it's true !

    Fixed that for you....;)

    And how many times Shakey...

    The SNP and their supporters are not representative of the 5 million that live here, only 35% of the electorate voted for them.
    And if I'm going to talk plainly then, in short,... the Tory campaign really, really !!!!ed off a lot of Scottish voters. And you can 'interpret' that how you like luv. :)

    Well, apparently it "!!!!ed them off" so much the Conservatives got 20,000 more votes this election than they did in the last one. :)

    No doubt you'll try and present misleading percentage figures to the contrary, but those only prove the separatist turnout was exceptionally high.... Hardly surprising just a few months after they lost a 2 year campaign. ;)
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
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