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Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

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  • .string. wrote: »
    Potential replies


    1. Three bad eggs out of 3.5 million SNP supporters is nothing to be concerned about; we don't hate the (f**!*:-)) English.

    2. It's not true, the Daily Telegraph can't be relied upon a reliable source, they are biassed and haven't reported all the events the SNP have supported to collect flowers for English Pensioners

    3. We are horrified (that anyone noticed) and have deselected those candidates; they will resume their work as SMPs.

    4. Now perhaps you can understand the privation caused by centuries of English suppression

    5. UKIP want to end the Holy Barney subsidies; that is the real problem

    6: No reply


    My money is on number 6

    How about No 7. Trawling through old twitter accounts and Youtube vids is all they sadly have left to counter the SNP with. That and moving on from the 'frightening' prospect of FFA, to resurrecting the another 'whooo scary ' independence referendum line again endlessly for the next 10 days. We're all really, really bored with it ( and the Telegraph ) in Scotland as you can see below.
    Scottish voting intentions for the May 2015 UK general election (TNS, 1st-19th April) :
    SNP 54% (+2)
    Labour 22% (-2)
    Conservatives 13% (n/c)
    Liberal Democrats 6% (n/c)
    Greens 2% (-1)
    UKIP 2% (+1)
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • CLAPTON wrote: »
    No, I'm reflecting that you don't put any words in your own mouth about fairness, about reducing inequality, about equality for the people of Yorkshire, about the 'new' (SNP) politics of honesty and true grass roots democracy.

    all you talk in Westminster style stuff like the above dishonest nonsense.

    Where has your idealism gone?
    Where has principled politics gone?

    They're still there. But I thought we were debating and speculating on an election and potential economic fallout from things like FFA. If you want me to write you a poem or wax lyrical on my innermost emotions, hopes, ideals and fears from an SNP standpoint, let me know and I'll pm you. :)

    But, onwards to the outward debate and cold hard realities this election and whatever it's ( economic and political ) fallout may be Clapton. Let's not start talking about me.
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    They're still there. But I thought we were debating and speculating on an election and potential economic fallout from things like FFA. If you want me to write you a poem or wax lyrical on my innermost emotions, hopes, ideals and fears from an SNP standpoint, let me know and I'll pm you. :)

    But, onwards to the outward debate and cold hard realities this election and whatever it's ( economic and political ) fallout may be Clapton. Let's not start talking about me.

    but you aren't talking about the economic consequences : only rubbish tactical issues and faux outrage that some-one of no importance said boo to an SNP politician.

    You haven't the slightest interest in the Scottish health service or education or fairness and equality or the economic consequence for the UK probably because your leader hasn't yet told you what your view should be.

    anyway we won't know whether the date of the next referendum is the key scottish issue until after the 7th and we can assess what the SNP power has to cause disruption and damage to the people of the UK

    You can of course be assumed of my support for a YES vote in the new referendum even if it does mean you will default on your share of the UK debt.
  • .string.
    .string. Posts: 2,733 Forumite
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    Careful now string. Or you'll have Westminster handing out a list of approved 'legitimate' parties we can all vote for. That's a very sinister route you're thinking about re the 'legitimacy' of poltical parties. Dangerous stuff.

    I'd leave that there if I were you before you start going down the lines of outlawing them as not being 'legitimate' enough for you. And I include Plaid Cymru and SDLP in that. ( as well as Meybon Kernow, Yorkshire First, Wessex Regionalists etc ). UKIP have no interest in Scotland whatsoever. I'd say they were misnamed.
    SNP are the sinister ones Shakey.I merely try to explain to the blinkered why they are not considered legitimate by some.
    Union, not Disunion

    I have a Right Wing and a Left Wing.
    It's the only way to fly straight.
  • .string.
    .string. Posts: 2,733 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    How about No 7. Trawling through old twitter accounts and Youtube vids is all they sadly have left to counter the SNP with. That and moving on from the 'frightening' prospect of FFA, to resurrecting the another 'whooo scary ' independence referendum line again endlessly for the next 10 days. We're all really, really bored with it ( and the Telegraph ) in Scotland as you can see below.

    So I was right - it was the normal zero reply. Not even faux outrage at the remarks of your fellow SNP nats, just yet another deflection to avoid having to admit that your sinister party can do anything wrong.
    Union, not Disunion

    I have a Right Wing and a Left Wing.
    It's the only way to fly straight.
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    That Scottish Campaign Poster in full

    - Vote Labour : Get a Labour government (Probably)

    - Vote SNP : Get, err, well...a bunch of troublesome MPs who will act like spoilt children in Westminster until we get what we want (what do you mean? of course it will work)
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    ...

    But, onwards to the outward debate and cold hard realities this election and whatever it's ( economic and political ) fallout may be Clapton. Let's not start talking about me.

    By realities do you mean the £14bn or so net flow of cash every year into Scotland to prop up your free prescriptions and Higher Ed?

    ...just so we are clear ;)
  • CLAPTON wrote: »
    but you aren't talking about the economic consequences : only rubbish tactical issues and faux outrage that some-one of no importance said boo to an SNP politician.

    You haven't the slightest interest in the Scottish health service or education or fairness and equality or the economic consequence for the UK probably because your leader hasn't yet told you what your view should be.

    anyway we won't know whether the date of the next referendum is the key scottish issue until after the 7th and we can assess what the SNP power has to cause disruption and damage to the people of the UK

    You can of course be assumed of my support for a YES vote in the new referendum even if it does mean you will default on your share of the UK debt.

    Aaah, so you have nothing left constructive to say, so go on an attempted personal character assassination, telling me what I think. Jolly good. :)
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • .string. wrote: »
    SNP are the sinister ones Shakey.I merely try to explain to the blinkered why they are not considered legitimate by some.

    'Not being considered legitimate by some' IS sinister in a UK democracy. The fact you personally feel the need to explain why exactly 'some don't consider' the SNP, Plaid Cymru or the SDLP as legitimate parties in terms of Westminster, after a Scottish No vote in an independence referendum.. even more so. I don't need it explained to me.

    I was disappointed by the referendum result. Accepting the result means the SNP stay as part of Westminster. Perfectly legitimately.
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • .string. wrote: »
    So I was right - it was the normal zero reply. Not even faux outrage at the remarks of your fellow SNP nats, just yet another deflection to avoid having to admit that your sinister party can do anything wrong.

    There are senior Labour activists ( regular tv appearances), Lords and others comparing, right now, the SNP and it's voters to Nazi's, facsists, english haters, cults, idiots and brainwashed numpties. It is never reported in the Telegraph or elsewhere. Both the Scottish Labour Leader and deputy Labour leader never step in re these Nazi comments. Nicola Sturgeon has on numerous occasions when SNP supporters/activists are being idiots.

    Two wrongs don't make a right. But as far as 'comments' are concerned, only one side is ever reported. Make of that what you will.

    But at the end of the day, if trawling Twitter and youtube vids are all the likes of the Telegraph and other newspapers have. Then they don't have much. You must admit.
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
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