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Salmond and Sturgeon Want the English Fish for More Fat Subsidies

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  • Leanne1812
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    elantan wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBOj1xAu2NQ watched this again today, thought you might enjoy it Shake and Leanne :)

    had me greeting again

    Ahh, brought back some memories. Still feels unreal sometimes looking back. An incredible time for Scotland.


    David Hayman was a terrific attribute during the referendum. I never did get to see his play, I'll need to look out for it online.
  • elantan
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    Aye 'twas a guid play, his final speech was great also

    Would recommend it :)
  • Generali
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    Leanne1812 wrote: »
    Hamish, as yet you have not proved that Scotland is indeed subsidized. The 'uk spending' on our behalf goes where exactly? If you can confirm where then we will be going some way to convince me Scotland takes from the union more than she puts in.

    Thank you to Shakes who has put into words an answer better than I can.

    Is it not somewhat strange to fight so hard to want to keep such a drain in the union?

    It does not add up....

    What do you think happens to state finances when one of your biggest sources of tax falls 90%? You aren't convinced because you have your head in the sand. There's none so blind as will not see.
  • MumOf2
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    Leanne1812 wrote: »
    I reckon Scotland will be sticking 2 fingers up to the conservatives this May.



    In exactly the same way as Nicola Sturgeon's parents stuck 2 fingers up at the conservatives when they bought their council house under Margaret Thatcher's right to buy scheme and have since made a reported 1700% - not a bad return for your money for members of a family who eschew capitalist philosophies.


    Bit too close to Tony Blair's champagne socialism for comfort...
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    Quit Date: 20th November 2009, 7pm

  • elantan
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    edited 22 March 2015 at 9:34PM
    Ha ha ha was waiting for someone to bring in Nicolas parents buying their home


    SO Obvious that one was


    Love it

    Only complaint I have is im running out of popcorn ;)
  • kabayiri
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    Generali wrote: »
    What do you think happens to state finances when one of your biggest sources of tax falls 90%? You aren't convinced because you have your head in the sand. There's none so blind as will not see.

    Leanne has postulated a scenario whereby an independend Scotland borrows in the early years to cover the income shortfall.

    The UK has indeed been in this position in the past, when we had to borrow from the IMF.

    Such borrowing usually comes with a swingeing set of do's and don'ts when it comes to your economy. You are no longer in control of matters. Not a great place to be IMO.

    Still, looking on the bright side, it would give the SNP a new 'enemy' to blame alongside Westminster.
  • CLAPTON
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    elantan wrote: »
    Ha ha ha was waiting for someone to bring in Nicolas parents buying their home


    SO Obvious that one was


    Love it

    Only complaint I hve I im running out of popcorn ;)

    does that mean you support the sale of council houses and think it is appropriate for SNP politician to buy one
    and to vote for such a person?

    or do you mean there are special rules for the SNP politicians so they can do no wrong ?
  • CLAPTON wrote: »
    does that mean you support the sale of council houses and think it is appropriate for SNP politician to buy one
    and to vote for such a person?

    or do you mean there are special rules for the SNP politicians so they can do no wrong ?

    Nicola didn't buy it, her parents did so it's easy to 'vote for such a person'.. And the SNP didn't get into power in Holyrood until 2007. Little they could do about 'right to buy' until then is there ?
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • kabayiri wrote: »
    Leanne has postulated a scenario whereby an independend Scotland borrows in the early years to cover the income shortfall.

    The UK has indeed been in this position in the past, when we had to borrow from the IMF.

    Such borrowing usually comes with a swingeing set of do's and don'ts when it comes to your economy. You are no longer in control of matters. Not a great place to be IMO.

    Still, looking on the bright side, it would give the SNP a new 'enemy' to blame alongside Westminster.

    I think you're rather jumping ahead of yourself a wee bit by assuming that FFA or independence means almost immediately having to go to the IMF for a bailout. :)
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • Leanne1812
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    MumOf2 wrote: »
    In exactly the same way as Nicola Sturgeon's parents stuck 2 fingers up at the conservatives when they bought their council house under Margaret Thatcher's right to buy scheme and have since made a reported 1700% - not a bad return for your money for members of a family who eschew capitalist philosophies.


    Bit too close to Tony Blair's champagne socialism for comfort...

    So Nicola's parents buying their council home makes Nicola guilty of what exactly?
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