We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

What do people think of this property deal?

2»

Comments

  • stator
    stator Posts: 7,441 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    She still got £75,000 for free with no work.
    Unless there was some misleading information or con work going on there's nothing to complain about. Caveat venditor
    Changing the world, one sarcastic comment at a time.
  • Idiophreak
    Idiophreak Posts: 12,024 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    AdrianC wrote: »
    Who's "stealing" anything? The sister voluntarily accepted a low offer for a hassle-free sale.

    Meh, it's very rare that someone would sell the properly *that far* below market value without *some kind* of countering expectation...or sheer ignorance.

    So, most likely, either the middle aged woman "got one over" on the old lady who didn't realise she was being ripped off, or the middle aged woman isn't acting in the spirit of the deal... (Even if it's just "Derek used to like you...he'd like to know you were living there" etc)

    In either case, the middle aged woman has money in her pocket that should rightfully be in the elderly woman's pocket. Whether it's technically "stealing" or not isn't really my concern - I was just pointing out that whether the elderly lady realised she's been stolen from (or just "done over") doesn't really have any impact on the sheer wrongness of the whole thing.
  • Mrs_Imp
    Mrs_Imp Posts: 1,001 Forumite
    Or maybe the sister understood how important the friendship was, and thought this would be a good way to the friend benefit from the will?
  • Thanks for the replies. Was interested to read about people's opinions as when I heard about it through others (the buyer was so !!!!-a-hoop with the deal they told all and sundry) I thought it was morally dubious and a little shabby.

    Nothing is known about the motives of the elderly woman. I would imagine she was happy to take a quick sale and wasn't aware of the true market value. There is no way she would ever find out about the true value of the house which is probably for the best.
  • Talc1234
    Talc1234 Posts: 273 Forumite
    Seventh Anniversary 100 Posts Combo Breaker
    edited 7 January 2015 at 9:33PM
    Idiophreak wrote: »

    In either case, the middle aged woman has money in her pocket that should rightfully be in the elderly woman's pocket. Whether it's technically "stealing" or not isn't really my concern

    Actually it is not 'technically stealing' it is 'stealing' FULL STOP

    Maybe the elderly woman had dementia and wasn't in a position to make such a decision

    Maybe this elderly woman had children or grandchildren she wanted to inherit the money

    Maybe if someone had told her that she could have sold the property at auction or given someone power of attorney to handle the sale she would have taken one of those alternatives

    Suppose a heating engineer noticed that his customer was elderly and decided to charge her double?
  • Old_Git
    Old_Git Posts: 4,751 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Mortgage-free Glee! Cashback Cashier
    it could be that the elderly woman was content with getting £75000 for nothing .She didnt earn it .
    "Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many"
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    Talc1234 wrote: »
    Actually it is not 'technically stealing' it is 'stealing' FULL STOP

    Maybe the elderly woman had dementia and wasn't in a position to make such a decision

    Maybe this elderly woman had children or grandchildren she wanted to inherit the money

    Maybe if someone had told her that she could have sold the property at auction or given someone power of attorney to handle the sale she would have taken one of those alternatives

    Suppose a heating engineer noticed that his customer was elderly and decided to charge her double?

    1: it's not stealing
    2: the what if brigade can be found at mailonline.com enjoy
  • Talc1234
    Talc1234 Posts: 273 Forumite
    Seventh Anniversary 100 Posts Combo Breaker
    Guest101 wrote: »
    1: it's not stealing
    2: the what if brigade can be found at mailonline.com enjoy

    1. Legally no, Morally yes

    2. Don't post abuse, if you don't like the topic don't read it
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
    Eighth Anniversary 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Talc1234 wrote: »
    1. Legally no, Morally yes

    So no laws have been broken, so it isn't theft in any meaningful sense.
    2. Don't post abuse, if you don't like the topic don't read it

    Look, if you don't think your outpourings are ever to be disagreed with in any way, shape or form, then you might find forums less than ideal for your delicate sensibilities. You came up with a bunch of "what if", which may well be complete fabrications unless you know a lot more than is in the thread. Deal with it.
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    Talc1234 wrote: »
    1. Legally no, Morally yes

    2. Don't post abuse, if you don't like the topic don't read it

    1: morals are individual. No law been broken
    2: I don't think I posted any abuse. What if scenarios are in my opinion the last ditch argument.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352.5K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.7K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.5K Spending & Discounts
  • 245.5K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 601.4K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.6K Life & Family
  • 259.4K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.