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We've got too many patients.............

...............so were closing the hospital!

Would someone like to explain the logic to me?
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  • jamie11
    jamie11 Posts: 4,436 Forumite
    Jeez, I've posted in the wrong place again.
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    U have but I'm intrigued, which hospital?
  • jamie11
    jamie11 Posts: 4,436 Forumite
    On the news this morning, about 8 hospitals refusing new patients because they can't stay within gov't. guidelines.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    I don't think they are closing the hospital as in kicking out all the patients and going home for a holiday.

    I think they are closing the hospital to new admissions since they have no beds to put them in and/or doctors/nurses to treat them.

    Perfectly logical (if undesirable).
  • KiKi
    KiKi Posts: 5,381 Forumite
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    Yes, perfectly logical. They can't take any more people in A&E because there are no beds in the rest of the hospital for A&E to transfer their patients to.

    I do wonder how much time and space we'd free up if people only used A&E for its actual purpose: accidents and emergencies. I was turned away once - I was upset, but the doctor was quite right, it was something my GP should be dealing with.
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  • The logic is patient safety. You take in patients you have no room for you put lives at risk. Sounds sensible to me.

    What I don't understand, is people going to A&E with minor ailments that do not need treatment or can be dealt with at home/GP/walk in.
  • G_M
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    Last time I was at A&E a nurse told me there's a serial ambulance user.

    He lives near the hospital, so after a Friday night out on the town, he calls an ambulance, gets taken to A&E, then disharges himself and walks home.

    Not quite the same, but misuse of ambulances, A&E etc should penalised in some way ......
  • Dan-Dan
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    KiKi wrote: »
    Yes, perfectly logical. They can't take any more people in A&E because there are no beds in the rest of the hospital for A&E to transfer their patients to.

    I do wonder how much time and space we'd free up if people only used A&E for its actual purpose: accidents and emergencies. I was turned away once - I was upset, but the doctor was quite right, it was something my GP should be dealing with.


    The issue seems to be , that people cant get appointments that day at the surgery , so are whisking themselves off to A&E instead
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  • Hospitals always have a crisis over winter. There's a lot of "granny-dumping" by families. Frail and at risk people become unwell over winter. There have been hospital and staff shortages for some time. 111 will almost always direct people to A&E. Not enough GPs and so not enough appointments.

    It's all a toxic mix, but one that has been designed. It's almost as if someone wants the NHS to fail!
  • kinger101
    kinger101 Posts: 6,689 Forumite
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    I think they need to site more walk-in clinics at the same place as A&E. Then a quick triage process can divert people who've gone to the wrong place. The impression I got from the news this morning was the the majority who had shown up at A&E were not there inappropriately. Some hospitals had people being cared for in ambulances for several hours before they could even be admitted.
    "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius
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