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Seller refusing offer as they owe more on house

Hi everyone

We have found a house we like and have gone about putting our offer in. The house is up for 210k, my first offer was 195k. The agents have come back as the offer has been rejected (I thought it would be) they have told us the seller will be moving to rental after selling this house but in order to cover what she owes, legal costs, fee's etc the lowest she can take is 205k. Could they just be saying this to get the offer higher? Me and my wife dont want to spend more than 200k and we dont believe the house is worth anymore than this

What would you do?

Thanks
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  • kinger101
    kinger101 Posts: 6,669 Forumite
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    Walk away. Or suggest they get an unsecured loan for the balance. It's not your fault they have no equity. If you do make another offer, make it firm and final, and give them a deadline to accept.
    "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius
  • Talc1234
    Talc1234 Posts: 273 Forumite
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    Either

    Offer £200k as your best and final offer. See what the sellers do

    or

    Offer £205K as your best and final offer. You should find some reason to lower your offer after the survey
  • ManuelG
    ManuelG Posts: 679 Forumite
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    Talc1234 wrote: »
    You should find some reason to lower your offer after the survey

    Isn't that slightly... immoral?

    And if they're telling the truth, means you end up spending cash on a survey to end up with no house?
  • greatgimpo
    greatgimpo Posts: 1,256 Forumite
    Ask their estate agent to lower their fees a little to help the sellers out.

    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    Walk away and find another property.
  • ManuelG
    ManuelG Posts: 679 Forumite
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    Anyway, it seems simple to me.

    OP thinks house is worth, max, £200k.

    Therefore, to me, the offer should be £200k. The seller is under no obligation to accept, but you never know.

    And pointless offering more than you think a house is worth. If someone gives them £205k then more fool them if it's not worth that.

    And if it is, c'est la vie.
  • duchy
    duchy Posts: 19,511 Forumite
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    Depends what the house is worth but in terms of comparative propertuy also on the market.....and what it is worth to you. (not always the same thing)

    You could walk away and find another house but be stuck in a chain for months........but then that might not be a problem for you

    Offer higher if you want but be prepared to walk away if the offer isn't accepted. There's always another house another time.
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  • I have gone in and said I'm only prepared to pay 200k for that house. They have said they will put it to her and see what she can do, they did say they have reduced there fees a little to help (i don't believe them, there the most expensive in the area anyway). The estate agent also said there is another couple interested, i guess to get me to go to the 205k. It was quite satisfying when i called there bluff as i know the other couple aren't in a position to buy yet (we're related)
  • Old_Git
    Old_Git Posts: 4,751 Forumite
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    rjs2014 wrote: »
    I have gone in and said I'm only prepared to pay 200k for that house. They have said they will put it to her and see what she can do, they did say they have reduced there fees a little to help (i don't believe them, there the most expensive in the area anyway). The estate agent also said there is another couple interested, i guess to get me to go to the 205k. It was quite satisfying when i called there bluff as i know the other couple aren't in a position to buy yet (we're related)

    do you know what the vendor paid for the house and how long ago .
    "Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many"
  • Crashy_Time
    Crashy_Time Posts: 13,386 Forumite
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    rjs2014 wrote: »
    Hi everyone

    We have found a house we like and have gone about putting our offer in. The house is up for 210k, my first offer was 195k. The agents have come back as the offer has been rejected (I thought it would be) they have told us the seller will be moving to rental after selling this house but in order to cover what she owes, legal costs, fee's etc the lowest she can take is 205k. Could they just be saying this to get the offer higher? Me and my wife dont want to spend more than 200k and we dont believe the house is worth anymore than this

    What would you do?

    Thanks


    I would politely tell them it is not my role to bail them out of their debts, and make a slightly lower offer, as the market is obviously slowing. Sometimes people just need to be brought back to awareness of their own responsibilities.
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