We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.
This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.
PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
Advice on transfer of grandparents house
jacdoy101
Posts: 6 Forumite
Hi there,
I am looking for some advice regarding the transfer of my grandparents house. To cut a long story short my Nan and Grandad haven’t planned adequately for their retirement and they are now starting to struggle financially.
The family have discussed it with them and whilst the logical and easiest solution would be for them to sell up and downsize, this is something that both are not willing to do, and besides, if they live for another 20 years, the money they earn from any sale would potentially run dry anyway. Other parts of the family are not willing/able to help so today my father and I had a discussion as to how we could help.
The basis of the plan we came up with was to have my grandparents transfer the deeds of the house to my father and then for the two of us to pay my grandparents a fixed monthly sum, allowing them to live in the house until their passing, when my father would then sell the house and he and I would split any proceeds between us.
I have little knowledge on the actual process/legality of such a plan and would like to ask if anyone has any advice on how to ensure things work out the way they should. Obviously if there is anything dubious about such a process then we will not be partaking and will have to go back to the drawing board. My main concern was the fact that if my grandparents ever had to go into care, could the transfer of the house be seen as asset depreciation with the view of avoiding care home fees? Both my grandparents are as fit as fiddles and this plan is solely for the fact that they are really struggling financially and the house is all they have left.
My father and I are aware of some of the potential risks this would involve. As I said this is just a very rough plan at the moment but if anyone has any ideas of who I could talk to to get further information that would be great. Many thanks.
PS: Apologies if this thread is in the wrong place.
I am looking for some advice regarding the transfer of my grandparents house. To cut a long story short my Nan and Grandad haven’t planned adequately for their retirement and they are now starting to struggle financially.
The family have discussed it with them and whilst the logical and easiest solution would be for them to sell up and downsize, this is something that both are not willing to do, and besides, if they live for another 20 years, the money they earn from any sale would potentially run dry anyway. Other parts of the family are not willing/able to help so today my father and I had a discussion as to how we could help.
The basis of the plan we came up with was to have my grandparents transfer the deeds of the house to my father and then for the two of us to pay my grandparents a fixed monthly sum, allowing them to live in the house until their passing, when my father would then sell the house and he and I would split any proceeds between us.
I have little knowledge on the actual process/legality of such a plan and would like to ask if anyone has any advice on how to ensure things work out the way they should. Obviously if there is anything dubious about such a process then we will not be partaking and will have to go back to the drawing board. My main concern was the fact that if my grandparents ever had to go into care, could the transfer of the house be seen as asset depreciation with the view of avoiding care home fees? Both my grandparents are as fit as fiddles and this plan is solely for the fact that they are really struggling financially and the house is all they have left.
My father and I are aware of some of the potential risks this would involve. As I said this is just a very rough plan at the moment but if anyone has any ideas of who I could talk to to get further information that would be great. Many thanks.
PS: Apologies if this thread is in the wrong place.
0
Comments
-
I don't unerstand the logic of transferring the house to you.
If you have the money available to give them, why not just give them the monthly money as a loan?
Discuss with them and they can write into their wills that you get back what you've loaned them out of their Estate.0 -
Book an appointment with a solicitor. You and your dad would usually need separate representation to your grandparents. The solicitor would go through all possible avenues, talk you through the legality of each route, what to be aware of etc.
They would probably charge but some firms do free 30 minute advice appointments.
What you've described can be done, but all parties need advice before signing anything.0 -
I don't unerstand the logic of transferring the house to you.
If you have the money available to give them, why not just give them the monthly money as a loan?
Discuss with them and they can write into their wills that you get back what you've loaned them out of their Estate.
Our thought was that if their house was required to be sold due to care home fees or for any other reason, then they wouldn't have any estate left to be paid back out of.0 -
In which case "deprivation of assets" would be a very serious risk if your father bought their house from them.
Also, they could be at risk of being turfed out onto the street with no come-back whatsoever.
There are so many holes on this plan there's not enough time to enumerate them.0 -
Our thought was that if their house was required to be sold due to care home fees or for any other reason, then they wouldn't have any estate left to be paid back out of.
If they need residential care, the financial assessment would include any debts.
As long as any money you give is documented as a loan, that would be repaid from the sale of the house and their ability to pay care home fees would depend on how much was left.0
This discussion has been closed.
Confirm your email address to Create Threads and Reply
Categories
- All Categories
- 352.5K Banking & Borrowing
- 253.7K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
- 454.5K Spending & Discounts
- 245.5K Work, Benefits & Business
- 601.4K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
- 177.6K Life & Family
- 259.4K Travel & Transport
- 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
- 16K Discuss & Feedback
- 37.7K Read-Only Boards