Advice on noise from from neighbour after recently buying

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pinkshoes wrote: »

Please just go and politely speak to your neighbour.

They may not even be aware of the noise.

Just ask them if they could possibly keep the noise down after 10pm, and perhaps put a rug down.

I'm going speak to them today after work. Last night had to be the worst night's sleep I've ever had. I went to bed just before midnight, all was peaceful. Then at midnight they arrived home from somewhere and all hell broke loose. Banging around, doors opening and closing, and loud talking until about 2am. I've heard of pillow talk, but this sounds like they are hosting an episode of question time in their bedroom! To top it off there was someone walking around at 5.30am... do these people even sleep!?

I'll speak to them once, after that it's all official. It'll also give me an opportunity to see what sort of flooring they have. If I spy any laminate (which I'm almost certain there must be) that'll form the basis of my complaint to the local authority.

JanetAS

I suffer from terrible noisy neighbours above me. I half own my flat (GF, shared ownership) and have lived here from new, 21 years. The flat above was bought outright when it was repossessed from the previous occupier. Therefore the owner and her partner moved out and now let it.

We are on the 4th lot of tenants and while each and every set had their problems, these are by far the worst. We are 1 bedroomed, marketed as for single people, but the owners happily let it out as a double, who invariably double in quantity, or let the whole family visit.

First was a Romanian couple. Then suddenly it was 4 people. And a dog. I have wanted a dog for years but it's against regulations. These people would come home from somewhere and order a pizza around 11.30pm, the biker would come through the main door, let it slam, stomp up the stairs, transaction took place, stomp down stairs, and let door slam on exit. Till one day I went out there and had a word.

They moved out, a woman moved in with her child. He went to the Caribbean (for some reason) and she used to have a bloke visit who would go out, noisily, around 4.30am.

She moved out, another young girl moved in, who stayed for 6 weeks and complained about everything in the flat. I took this opportunity to persuade the owners to remove their laminate flooring, which the woman had had installed when she first moved in. I did dash upstairs on hearing it going down and begged her not to, but she insisted she'd be quiet. Yet she got annoyed when I apparently complained about her child running about on it. And there was me thinking they'd moved out while he was a baby!! Anyway, they did remove the laminate and put down carpet.

While the flat was empty it was bliss.

Then. For many nights, around 10.30pm, 2 men would arrive, disturb everyone, stay for about half hour, then go. This went on for weeks and weeks, I went out once and politely said I wanted to go to bed, when would they finish. And one night, about 2am, somebody arrived, and proceeded to take a very long shower, and so the man and his g/f moved in. I had reason to believe they were Turkish.

Well the noise from then on! Slamming all doors, slamming windows, not settling down till 2am most nights, not liking it when told, I complained repeatedly to the owners, AND to the housing association (who claim my file is very thick!)

The girl next door shouted at him twice, because they have visitors (of which there are many and frequent) who stumble noisily up the stairs and she'd got fed up with them.

Also, the girl living above them said she was getting fed up. But guess what? Because they won't complain to the right people, or have only done it once, they weren't included in the equation. I had a meeting with someone from the HA and the male owner at my flat in Nov 13. The girl next door refused to answer the door to me when she knew I wanted her support, so during the course of the meeting the LL turned it around to make ME the villain and his tenants as the victims!

I was asked, is the flat no longer suitable for my needs, could I move my bed into the lounge, could I not use earplugs, am I sensitive to noise.

Nobody was willing to get to the root of the problem...them upstairs! No, I was expected to change my ways and lifestyle to fit in with theirs.

I was victimising them, because they're young. LL's words.

The meeting ended with me asking them both to leave as it had reached stalemate. It took me more than 2 years to get the LL to repair the holes and water stains in my bathroom ceiling because he kept ignoring it, but I wore him down, and his plumber has since done it. Only because I had a further leak, through the extractor fan.

Before that the LL had claimed our 'relationship was in tatters' because of my allegations, that he and his wife seemed to refuse to recognise and believe.

I now want to move out. I have a 50% share in the flat. I have to go through the HA waiting list to sell, but who will want to live under these *************s?! The LL renewed their tenancy after 1 year, against his own claim that he wouldn't, because he didn't trust the guy. These were his words when they first moved in. So I've had them above me for 2 years. They now have a baby, AND for nearly a year a second man has been living there. In a 1 bedroom flat, if you please, that is suitable for a single person only.

They go out most nights, and then come home in shifts. More disturbance. Their visitors arrive, make much noise (2 kids that run about from 4pm to past 11pm) and who leave in shifts. It seems the whole family visit at once.

I lost my mother Oct 2012 and I feel I've never had the chance to grieve properly. I had extremely nasty surgery 12 months ago from which I am still recovering (post surgery pain) and I can't relax.

How can I and the OP be told we are sensitive to noise and expect to get used to it when something dropped heavily onto the floor above you wakes you up? When the front door slams at all times of night, as does their flat door! When all other residents (6 flats in the block) behave with consideration?

OP, you have my deepest sympathy.

Southend1

JanetAS wrote: »

I suffer from terrible noisy neighbours above me. I half own my flat (GF, shared ownership) and have lived here from new, 21 years. The flat above was bought outright when it was repossessed from the previous occupier. Therefore the owner and her partner moved out and now let it.

We are on the 4th lot of tenants and while each and every set had their problems, these are by far the worst. We are 1 bedroomed, marketed as for single people, but the owners happily let it out as a double, who invariably double in quantity, or let the whole family visit.

First was a Romanian couple. Then suddenly it was 4 people. And a dog. I have wanted a dog for years but it's against regulations. These people would come home from somewhere and order a pizza around 11.30pm, the biker would come through the main door, let it slam, stomp up the stairs, transaction took place, stomp down stairs, and let door slam on exit. Till one day I went out there and had a word.

They moved out, a woman moved in with her child. He went to the Caribbean (for some reason) and she used to have a bloke visit who would go out, noisily, around 4.30am.

She moved out, another young girl moved in, who stayed for 6 weeks and complained about everything in the flat. I took this opportunity to persuade the owners to remove their laminate flooring, which the woman had had installed when she first moved in. I did dash upstairs on hearing it going down and begged her not to, but she insisted she'd be quiet. Yet she got annoyed when I apparently complained about her child running about on it. And there was me thinking they'd moved out while he was a baby!! Anyway, they did remove the laminate and put down carpet.

While the flat was empty it was bliss.

Then. For many nights, around 10.30pm, 2 men would arrive, disturb everyone, stay for about half hour, then go. This went on for weeks and weeks, I went out once and politely said I wanted to go to bed, when would they finish. And one night, about 2am, somebody arrived, and proceeded to take a very long shower, and so the man and his g/f moved in. I had reason to believe they were Turkish.

Well the noise from then on! Slamming all doors, slamming windows, not settling down till 2am most nights, not liking it when told, I complained repeatedly to the owners, AND to the housing association (who claim my file is very thick!)

The girl next door shouted at him twice, because they have visitors (of which there are many and frequent) who stumble noisily up the stairs and she'd got fed up with them.

Also, the girl living above them said she was getting fed up. But guess what? Because they won't complain to the right people, or have only done it once, they weren't included in the equation. I had a meeting with someone from the HA and the male owner at my flat in Nov 13. The girl next door refused to answer the door to me when she knew I wanted her support, so during the course of the meeting the LL turned it around to make ME the villain and his tenants as the victims!

I was asked, is the flat no longer suitable for my needs, could I move my bed into the lounge, could I not use earplugs, am I sensitive to noise.

Nobody was willing to get to the root of the problem...them upstairs! No, I was expected to change my ways and lifestyle to fit in with theirs.

I was victimising them, because they're young. LL's words.

The meeting ended with me asking them both to leave as it had reached stalemate. It took me more than 2 years to get the LL to repair the holes and water stains in my bathroom ceiling because he kept ignoring it, but I wore him down, and his plumber has since done it. Only because I had a further leak, through the extractor fan.

Before that the LL had claimed our 'relationship was in tatters' because of my allegations, that he and his wife seemed to refuse to recognise and believe.

I now want to move out. I have a 50% share in the flat. I have to go through the HA waiting list to sell, but who will want to live under these *************s?! The LL renewed their tenancy after 1 year, against his own claim that he wouldn't, because he didn't trust the guy. These were his words when they first moved in. So I've had them above me for 2 years. They now have a baby, AND for nearly a year a second man has been living there. In a 1 bedroom flat, if you please, that is suitable for a single person only.

They go out most nights, and then come home in shifts. More disturbance. Their visitors arrive, make much noise (2 kids that run about from 4pm to past 11pm) and who leave in shifts. It seems the whole family visit at once.

I lost my mother Oct 2012 and I feel I've never had the chance to grieve properly. I had extremely nasty surgery 12 months ago from which I am still recovering (post surgery pain) and I can't relax.

How can I and the OP be told we are sensitive to noise and expect to get used to it when something dropped heavily onto the floor above you wakes you up? When the front door slams at all times of night, as does their flat door! When all other residents (6 flats in the block) behave with consideration?

OP, you have my deepest sympathy.

Intriguing......

Why did he go to the Caribbean?

And what led you to believe they were Turkish?

nickyg2000

Don't complain its tens times more stressful dealing with noise and having fallen out with them. Just stay quiet and move on. It wont get any better until they move out...

JanetAS

Couldn't remember where I posted these comments.
Southend1, when the woman was living there with her son she asked me to show her something in her flat, that she was unsure of. There was a double bed in the lounge, but she excused that as having a friend stopping there temporarily. then she pointed to her son and said as she was going to be training for a different job, her son would be 'going home' and that she was taking him soon.

As for the present tenants, the man drove a van with a name which I Googled. It was Turkish, and their names also suggest this.

The RSM of our HA phoned recently asking me for an update on the noise (like they care) and to discuss me having noise monitoring equipment again, but this would not be for about 3 weeks. She said the 'managing agent', ie the LL, had visited the property about Sep or Oct and 'could find no evidence of a third adult living there'.

Since our phone conversation I went to our post box one morning (the cage under the letter box in the communal hallway) and saw a letter addressed to the 'ghostly' third adult so, keeping it within the communal area, took a photo and emailed it to our RSM. I also gave her the regn no. of the car he drives. She will now 'look into it'.

Their TA is due for renewal round about this time so she also said she would ask the LL if they are renewing.