I can see this being a PITA

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kwikbreaks wrote: »

A modem is either synced or not synced. If it's in standby it would need to re-establish sync. That isn't instant.

any excess heat isn't really wasted anyway in the UK - it just cuts down the load on the central heating.

Computers don't boot up instantly either, though.

For half the year the central heating is not on, and for the other half it's twice as efficient as a power station.

kwikbreaks

jack_pott wrote: »

Computers don't boot up instantly either, though.

Tablets are pretty much instant on. I fitted my desktop and laptop with SSDs and they boot quicker that my router will sync.

From the look of the comments above though where Tropez looked up the actual requirements it sounds like this is typically sloppy BBC reporting again if the EU have set power consumption criteria and not required devices to power down as stated in the first paragraph of the story...

European Union rules will oblige new networked devices such as modems and internet-connected televisions to switch themselves off when not in use.

Tropez

kwikbreaks wrote: »

From the look of the comments above though where Tropez looked up the actual requirements it sounds like this is typically sloppy BBC reporting again if the EU have set power consumption criteria and not required devices to power down as stated in the first paragraph of the story...

I probably should have supplied a link.

It is actually quite the chore to find the actual requirements but yeah, from the Danish Energy Agency, I found this (link is in English):

http://www.ens.dk/sites/ens.dk/files/forbrug-besparelser/apparater-produkter/energikrav-produkter/tv-it-elektronik/produkter_netvaerk/fact_sheet_networked_equipment_ens.pdf

On Page 4 it states:

Networked equipment and televisions
From 1st January 2015 networked equipment and televisions with network connections must provide a power management function. The power management function must automatically switch the equipment into networked standby mode, after a period of time where the equipment has not carried out a main function and/or other equipment is not dependent on it.

Could be argued, I'd imagine, that a modem sync is necessary for the operation of the device but even then the power limits should be within range anyway.

And then on Page 5 it begins explaining "Maximum Allowed Power Consumption in Standby Mode" and the following page has a table with the limitations.

So from what I can tell, unless it is impossible for a device to enter standby mode somehow, there is no requirement for it to switch off.

Incidentally I recently purchased a new Smart TV which had the EU-mandated auto-standby function on by default. I turned the function off because it tried to switch the TV into Standby because I hadn't pressed a button on the remote after four hours - since my sound comes through a soundbar, my TV comes through a satellite box, Roku, Xbox or Blu-Ray player, I have no need to press buttons on the TV remote so that was just annoying.

thescouselander

Seems a bit pointless when it comes to modems. We have so much stuff connected in our house that the Internet is pretty much in use constantly.

securityguy

thescouselander wrote: »

Seems a bit pointless when it comes to modems. We have so much stuff connected in our house that the Internet is pretty much in use constantly.

In many houses, particularly those with elderly residents, there's not much more than a tablot and/or a laptop.

More generally, I'd suggest that the proportion of houses in which there is active, useful Internet activity when everyone is asleep is quite small.

zappahey

securityguy wrote: »

In many houses, particularly those with elderly residents, there's not much more than a tablot and/or a laptop.

More generally, I'd suggest that the proportion of houses in which there is active, useful Internet activity when everyone is asleep is quite small.

Surely pretty much every tablet and smartphone polls for email and social networking updates through the night? Maybe not useful but certainly active.