Bread maker tripping RCD

Marktheshark

Ben84 wrote: »

Nobody has suggested physically bypassing or altering the RCD itself.

Trying to dry it out on an RCD free circuit does still come with some potential hazards, as I described earlier. However, we all take measured risks every day, like crossing the road or using sharp items. Most people accept these are ok with sensible caution.

Despite this, a lot of people are oddly afraid of electricity and even more so of their own DIY efforts involving it. Yet they happily use all kinds of items assembled, designed and sometimes previously repaired by other people whose skills they know nothing of! I think it's more a fear of the unknown than anything else sometimes, and some misguided belief everyone else's work is safer than their own.

Be sensible and consider the risks and how to manage them, not afraid. There's nothing wrong with learning how to do something safely and trusting your own judgement

All well and Good but telling someone else on a forum who may have no electrical knowledge to start messing about with a piece of faulty 240 volt apparatus that gets plugged in to a 30 Amp ring main by by-passing the RCD circuit is not what I would class as a measured risk.
More like assisted suicide.

ROY47

Bin it !! it's not worth the hassle
It's faulty !

Barneysmom

Bin it.
If it's got any kind of moisture in it, it'll be rusty where you can't see it, where the wires to the heater mat are. Not worth the risk, bin it.

Ben84

Marktheshark wrote: »

All well and Good but telling someone else on a forum who may have no electrical knowledge to start messing about with a piece of faulty 240 volt apparatus that gets plugged in to a 30 Amp ring main by by-passing the RCD circuit is not what I would class as a measured risk.
More like assisted suicide.

This is about the most extreme description of plugging an appliance to a normal socket I've heard.

As for DIY, plenty of books, websites and videos teach people with no previous experience how to test and repair mains voltage appliances at home. It's happening all over the place. I was fixing TVs when I was 11, and we didn't have RCDs back then or worry about plugging an appliance (faulty or not) in to a normal household socket. The risks were manageable even with the lesser safety features of the time.

Does anything suggest they're going to ignore common sense and do everything wrong instead of learning, taking their time and thinking about what they're doing? If they don't feel confident enough in their knowledge to do the things described, but still wish to try, they can always research more first.

However, I feel I should remind you I said this earlier:

"Of course, if there's another fault, doing this could be dangerous."

I'd say it's minimal risk, but I mentioned it. I also said:

"If you're unsure about doing these things, you can always take it to a repair place."

I'm sure you mean well regarding safety, but trusting people to make sensible choices is I think equally important. No pressure from me to make anyone try something they're not comfortable with or don't know the risks of, but I won't pretend there's an invisible wall there either. Plenty of people do something new for the first time and manage the risks just fine.

DavE

After garage storage, my Morphy Richards Fastbake 48281kept blowing trip switches when heater came on. I removed the heater element and baked it in an oven (180C/1hr), then it worked OK.
Heating reduce the leakage to earth from 700Kohm to >2Mohm. Measurement were taken with a cheapo multimeter between a heater terminal and the metal sheath. (Same values were obtained between the earth and live pins on the mains plug in the assembled condition).
This method works either because the heat drives of moisture, or thermal movements break tiny conduction paths.